Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: What's with all the hype for Suriano? He’s an ncaa champ and 2x finalist ( he dominated the eventual champ his freshman year before breaking his ankle ) and he can wrestle with anyone ..taking out the med forfeits he has the same amount of career loses as Lee (5) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 307 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: He’s an ncaa champ and 2x finalist ( he dominated the eventual champ his freshman year before breaking his ankle ) and he can wrestle with anyone ..taking out the med forfeits he has the same amount of career loses as Lee (5) Same career losses yet less titles, less total wins, less marquee wins, less bonus. Oh yeah, he also lost to NaTo and Arujau in freestyle, the same style where he had that one good tournament that is forming the basis of the hype. Edit: I don't think there is much of an argument here, though. Suriano is really good. If Lee is significantly hobbled, Suriano/Arujau/Glory do have a chance. I don't think the Brands are letting him wrestle if he's that hobbled, however and I think that Lee's recent interview where he said he would have competed at trials if 57kg was contested is a good sign that he is good to go. For that reason, he's my pick to win and I don't think it's even close. Can the season get here already? Edited October 3, 2021 by Mr. Poopy butthole 1 BerniePragle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,058 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 What's the deal-- he has wrestled at 2 Big-10 schools already. Can he transfer to a third? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,953 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: Same career losses yet less titles, less total wins, less marquee wins, less bonus. Oh yeah, he also lost to NaTo and Arujau in freestyle, the same style where he had that one good tournament that is forming the basis of the hype. Edit: I don't think there is much of an argument here, though. Suriano is really good. If Lee is significantly hobbled, Suriano/Arujau/Glory do have a chance. I don't think the Brands are letting him wrestle if he's that hobbled, however and I think that Lee's recent interview where he said he would have competed at trials if 57kg was contested is a good sign that he is good to go. For that reason, he's my pick to win and I don't think it's even close. Can the season get here already? How did Lee do against them in that style? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lunaticfringe 100 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 If Suriano goes to Michigan do they have more Italians than Rutgers? 1 TexRef reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: Same career losses yet less titles, less total wins, less marquee wins, less bonus. Oh yeah, he also lost to NaTo and Arujau in freestyle, the same style where he had that one good tournament that is forming the basis of the hype. Edit: I don't think there is much of an argument here, though. Suriano is really good. If Lee is significantly hobbled, Suriano/Arujau/Glory do have a chance. I don't think the Brands are letting him wrestle if he's that hobbled, however and I think that Lee's recent interview where he said he would have competed at trials if 57kg was contested is a good sign that he is good to go. For that reason, he's my pick to win and I don't think it's even close. Can the season get here already? Less marquee wins? Suriano has beat ncaa champ Cruz 2x, Ncaa finalists Fix, Micic ,Lizak 3x, Mosley 2X , Muellar… he also has wins over Rivera 2x, Desanto, Pletcher, bressler Lee- best win is suriano, 2-1 vs NATO, Muellar , Lizak , Moisey,Courtney …hes 2-2 against Seabass , 4-1 against Picc Lee wrestled an entire extra season so he should have more wins then suriano but he’s not even close to having better wins Edited October 3, 2021 by Antitroll2828 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 307 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: Less marquee wins? Suriano has beat ncaa champ Cruz 2x, Ncaa finalists Fix, Micic ,Lizak 3x, Mosley 2X , Muellar… he also has wins over Rivera 2x, Desanto, Pletcher, bressler Lee- best win is suriano, 2-1 vs NATO, Muellar , Lizak , Moisey,Courtney …hes 2-2 against Seabass , 4-1 against Picc Lee wrestled an entire extra season so he should have more wins then suriano but he’s not even close to having better wins Lee and Suriano have wrestled the same number of seasons. But I take your point about the marquee wins. They are actually quite similar in that regard. Still, I will take Lee if he wrestles the season and doesn't get injured. I don't really think it's close. Looking at the trajectories of the 2: Lee was looking unstoppable until the 2nd ACL tear. Meanwhile, Suriano continues to swirl in drama, seemingly doesn't know what he wants to do nor where he wants to do it, had 1 good tournament, and at the last event we saw him at, lost to NaTo and barely squeaked by Shelton Mack. Keep in mind that Lee's true Junior year (covid year) he was wrestling on 1 acl, after an off-season of rehab and looked pretty damn impressive doing it. Can he have the same results rehabbing the other knee? We will see. I don't think Suriano over Lee is a good pick no matter how you slice it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,429 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: Can he have the same results rehabbing the other knee? How is he going to "rehab" the knee, isn't he still missing both ACLs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: Lee and Suriano have wrestled the same number of seasons. But I take your point about the marquee wins. They are actually quite similar in that regard. Still, I will take Lee if he wrestles the season and doesn't get injured. I don't really think it's close. Looking at the trajectories of the 2: Lee was looking unstoppable until the 2nd ACL tear. Meanwhile, Suriano continues to swirl in drama, seemingly doesn't know what he wants to do nor where he wants to do it, had 1 good tournament, and at the last event we saw him at, lost to NaTo and barely squeaked by Shelton Mack. Keep in mind that Lee's true Junior year (covid year) he was wrestling on 1 acl, after an off-season of rehab and looked pretty damn impressive doing it. Can he have the same results rehabbing the other knee? We will see. I don't think Suriano over Lee is a good pick no matter how you slice it. No they aren’t similar in marquee wins …suriano has better wins and more against high level AAs you seem to be ignoring surianos entire career and focusing on a freestyle tournament which wasn’t even at surianos normal weight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,214 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 No knee Lee ain't beating Nicky Pushups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,058 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Lunaticfringe said: If Suriano goes to Michigan do they have more Italians than Rutgers? They already have more Italians than the Italian national team. 1 3 BerniePragle, TexRef, wrestlingnerd and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,953 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: No knee Lee ain't beating Nicky Pushups. We aren't talking Nicky Pushups. Nicky Pushups is 133lb Nicky. Nicky Skeletor is 125lb Nicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,214 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 Just now, nhs67 said: We aren't talking Nicky Pushups. Nicky Pushups is 133lb Nicky. Nicky Skeletor is 125lb Nicky Fake news. When Nicky Pushups weighs in at 133, he keeps his gold chains on. That's 6 pounds right there. 4 flyingcement, TexRef, nhs67 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver 17 Report post Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: Suriano can absolutely beat a Spencer Lee with no ACLs Maybe like high school senior year thing? No #4 Edited October 3, 2021 by silver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TexRef 109 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Fake news. When Nicky Pushups weighs in at 133, he keeps his gold chains on. That's 6 pounds right there. What about hair product? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,214 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, TexRef said: What about hair product? Pound and a half, but he wouldn't be caught dead without it. 1 TexRef reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bozak2018 90 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 17 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: Less marquee wins? Suriano has beat ncaa champ Cruz 2x, Ncaa finalists Fix, Micic ,Lizak 3x, Mosley 2X , Muellar… he also has wins over Rivera 2x, Desanto, Pletcher, bressler Lee- best win is suriano, 2-1 vs NATO, Muellar , Lizak , Moisey,Courtney …hes 2-2 against Seabass , 4-1 against Picc Lee wrestled an entire extra season so he should have more wins then suriano but he’s not even close to having better wins Are you forgetting the time he pinned NATO in the national semi's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,214 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 They are selling the shyte out of these torn ACLs over on spencerlee.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 1,091 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 It would be good to have a back-up in case Ragusin gets injured. 1 nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Bozak2018 said: Are you forgetting the time he pinned NATO in the national semi's? Obviously not as I pointed out he’s 2-1 against NATO…. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerniePragle 376 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 What if suriano goes to Michigan? Answer: Then he'll be wearing a different uniform when he loses to Spencer Lee this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,953 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, BerniePragle said: What if suriano goes to Michigan? Answer: Then he'll be wearing a different uniform when he loses to Spencer Lee this time. Truth is truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 42 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 Have not heard anything of Michigan being on Suriano's list. Penn State seems to be the team that is trending if he chooses to wrestle in college at all (not a done deal yet apparently) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,319 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, IGotAPlan said: Have not heard anything of Michigan being on Suriano's list. Penn State seems to be the team that is trending if he chooses to wrestle in college at all (not a done deal yet apparently) Well he's not in the Michigan student registry for first semester so there is that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 42 Report post Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Idaho said: Well he's not in the Michigan student registry for first semester so there is that. January enrollment if anywhere at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites