Are Olympic/World Team Scores Always Based on Discipline?

[MonagFam 77]

I was just curious if team scores have always been based on a specific discipline rather than the all of the disciplines combined? It seems like the FS race was a hot topic, but I didn't know if all of the events played a role.  Like the US would be really strong with FS and Women's, etc.?

[spladle08 1,090]

4 minutes ago, MonagFam said:

I was just curious if team scores have always been based on a specific discipline rather than the all of the disciplines combined? It seems like the FS race was a hot topic, but I didn't know if all of the events played a role.  Like the US would be really strong with FS and Women's, etc.?

I believe so. 
Like men's and women's anything (Isn't that how it goes in all individual sports since they're entirely 2 different teams in 2 different events)
Swimming, gymnastics, etc... 
Gymnastics would probably be the easiest comparison. I'm sure some of the men would like the women to carry them to a team title/medal. 
but I don't know of any men's/women's teams combined recognition. 
 
 

[MonagFam 77]

6 minutes ago, spladle08 said:

I believe so. 
Like men's and women's anything (Isn't that how it goes in all individual sports since they're entirely 2 different teams in 2 different events)
Swimming, gymnastics, etc... 
Gymnastics would probably be the easiest comparison. I'm sure some of the men would like the women to carry them to a team title/medal. 
but I don't know of any men's/women's teams combined recognition. 
 
 

That makes sense.  Thanks!

[denger 339]

Does wrestling keep a team score in the Olympics? I see it presented as overall medal count in the three competitions. 

[Mphillips 1,664]

10 minutes ago, denger said:

Does wrestling keep a team score in the Olympics? I see it presented as overall medal count in the three competitions. 

I don't believe anything official.

[denger 339]

To what extent do the three styles share resources and structures? It's nice for us to be able to say "we're a strong second" in both MFS and Women's, and we can be proud of that overall, but I don't know if that kind of measure is particularly useful when comparing ourselves to countries that are even more segregated by gender. 

Team USA presumably shares more stuff than many countries - I certainly enjoy the apparent camaraderie between our team members in all three sports, but I don't see that as much in other countries. 

[CA_Wrestler 316]

If they did freestyle mens and womens, Russia would lose by a lot lol

if they had mens/womens FS plus greco, we'd get killed in team score

[nhs67 1,980]

Well, the 'total points' of all the 'countries' as of right now for all 'three' styles:

PLACE	COUNTRY	POINTS
1	Russian Wrestling Federation	337
2	United States	329
3	Japan	260
4	Iran	242
5	Kyrgyzstan	128
6	Mongolia	128
7	Turkey	127
8	Azerbaijan	126
9	Ukraine	114
10	Georgia	93
11	Poland	89
12	India	87
13	Belarus	85
14	Germany	81
15	Armenia	80
16	Moldova	79
17	Bulgaria	67
18	Kazakhstan	62
19	Canada	53
20	Sweden	41
21	Hungary	40
22	France	32
23	Slovakia	30
24	Estonia	26
25	Egypt	21
26	Lithuania	19
T27	Brazil	18
T27	Romania	18
29	Serbia	16
30	Puerto Rico	14
T31	Nigeria	12
T31	North Macedonia	12
T33	Chile	10
T33	Czech Republic	10
T33	Ecuador	10
T33	Italy	10
37	Greece	8
T38	Mexico	6
T38	South Korea	6
T38	Spain	6
T41	Brunei	2
T41	Great Britian	2
T41	Norway	2
T41	Tajikistan	2

[CA_Wrestler 316]

see? 

Russia Greco points 130

USA 19

 

Their Greco scores basically covers for their women's scores(64) and our women's score(147) covers for our greco scores or lack of scores...

 

 

[Plasmodium 2,224]

 

 

[denger 339]

21 hours ago, CA_Wrestler said:

see? 

Russia Greco points 130

USA 19

 

Their Greco scores basically covers for their women's scores(64) and our women's score(147) covers for our greco scores or lack of scores...

 

 

Except Russia's women were competitive. They were 7th out of 36, in the hunt for 3rd place team, put 4 in medal matches, and had 7/10 place top-10

USA Greco was 18th out of 49, and 7/10 didn't win a single match. It's surprising to me how close USA is to Russia in combined scores. 

 

[CA_Wrestler 316]

15 hours ago, denger said:

Except Russia's women were competitive. They were 7th out of 36, in the hunt for 3rd place team, put 4 in medal matches, and had 7/10 place top-10

USA Greco was 18th out of 49, and 7/10 didn't win a single match. It's surprising to me how close USA is to Russia in combined scores. 

 

I know, but that's Russia's lowest team score.  Had to compare it with something lol

[denger 339]

50 minutes ago, CA_Wrestler said:

I know, but that's Russia's lowest team score.  Had to compare it with something lol

Brilliant! My Monday just got a little better! : )