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Will the hawkeyes and fans at the carver arena be enough to hold back PSU?! 8 out of the 10 matches will have ranked contenders and a total of 3 #1 Vs #2 matches ( according to inter mat rankings that were updated in September.) While Iowa claimed a national title PSU crowned 4 compared to the 1 individual national champion Iowa crowned. As we all know this will be a nail bitter and to expect always the unexpected at this dual meet. Below is my opinion on what may take place. 

4points 125 #1( Lee) VS (Suriano?) Prob will be #2    This will be absolutely electrifying if this goes down

4 points 133 #4(desanto) Vs #1(RBY)      This will be interesting due to desanto being injured the last two times they matched up, as I would love to see him pull it off,

 3 points 141 #2 (Eierman) Vs #1(Lee)     A grudge match from the finals last year, carver arena will help Eierman pull it off!

6 points 149 #10(Murin)Vs Open

4 points 157 #6 (Young) vs #26( Lee)                            This will be the unexpected moment in the dual meet

6 points 165 #2 (Marinelli) vs OPEN

3 Points 174 #2 (Kemerer) Vs #1(Starocci)                   Another grudge match that will end in the hawkeyes favor.

6 points 184 #15(Brands) vs #1 (Brooks)                            

4 points 197 #3 (Warner) VS #4 (Dean)                     

6 points HWT  #3 (Cassioppi) Vs #5 (Kerkvliet)         Cassioppi aint playing around this year!

28- 18 IOWA!

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Interesting choices on a few of these.  I did my own predictions last week I think and it ended up with a tie on points.

125: Lee would likely beat Suriano, but a major?  Seems unlikely to me

133: Same as above

141: Yeah this one seems to be a toss up, with a slight edge in Lee's favor.  But should be a decision.

149: Murin vs Bartlett/Van Ness would probably favor Murin, but I wouldn't predict a pin.  Probably not any bonus points in my opinion

157: I had the opposite of you with Kaleb Young majoring Joe Lee, but Lee is a bit of a wildcard, so your prediction doesn't seem that unlikely

165: Marinelli would be a favorite over Facundo.  Maybe a major decision, but I wouldn't think a pin.

174: Starocci keeps getting better, I doubt we see Kemerer ever beat him again

184: Seems possible

197: Same as above

285: I have Cassioppi winning but only by a decision.  Looking forward to seeing if his approach changes at all with his new physique

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125: Spencer Lee dec. Nick Suriano 7-3 (3-0)

133: Roman Bravo Young dec. Austin DeSanto 5-4 (3-3)

141: Nick Lee dec. Jaydin Eierman 4-2 (3-6)

149: Max Murin dec. Beau Bartlett 9-6 (6-6)

157: Kaleb Young dec. Joe Lee 8-3 (9-6)

165: Alex Marinelli maj dec Alex Facundo 10-2 (13-6)

174: Carter Starocci dec. Michael Kemmerer 6-2 (13-9)

184: Aaron Brooks maj dec. Nelson Brands 13-1 (13-13)

197: Max Dean dec. Jacob Warner 7-2 (13-16)

285: Tony Cassioppi dec. Greg Kerkvliet 6-5 (16-16)

 

 

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6 hours ago, flyingcement said:

125: Spencer Lee dec. Nick Suriano 7-3 (3-0)

133: Roman Bravo Young dec. Austin DeSanto 5-4 (3-3)

141: Nick Lee dec. Jaydin Eierman 4-2 (3-6)

149: Max Murin dec. Beau Bartlett 9-6 (6-6)

157: Kaleb Young dec. Joe Lee 8-3 (9-6)

165: Alex Marinelli maj dec Alex Facundo 10-2 (13-6)

174: Carter Starocci dec. Michael Kemmerer 6-2 (13-9)

184: Aaron Brooks maj dec. Nelson Brands 13-1 (13-13)

197: Max Dean dec. Jacob Warner 7-2 (13-16)

285: Tony Cassioppi dec. Greg Kerkvliet 6-5 (16-16)

 

 

That seems pretty logical to me.  It would not be surprising if there is a missing starter or two. These matches seem to have an element of disappointment of late with “injuries” 

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This would be an excellent dual.

No way on God's green earth does No Knee Lee major Nicky Pushups. 

I think PSU will win 125, 133, 141  and 184.  149, 174 are coin flips.

Suriano over Lee, 3-0

RBY Over DeSanto, 6-0

Lee over Eireman, 9-0

Murin over Bartlett, 9-3

Young over Lee, 9-6

Marinelli over Facundo, 9-9

Starocci over Kemmerer, 12-9

Brooks over Brands, 15-9

Warner over Dean/Beard, 15-12

Cassioppi over Kerkvliet, 15-15

 

 

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125

I have Lee in a comfortable Decision.  Suriano's only points are off escapes.  6-3, 8-3 type match. If this is anyone else it is a Tech or Pin.

Iowa 3-0

133-TOSSUP

Yeah.  It's a tossup, gents... It is at Carver and just after a high profile match that Iowa dominated.  I do have RBY in a narrow 3-2, 5-3 type match.  A focus2wd, chess style match in which RBY never loses his focus.

Tied 3-3

141-TOSSUP

Obviously a tossup.  If Lee isn't here, Eiermani will ride the hell out of whomever is (BB?) and gets bonus.  It's Carver, man.  It's also Nick Lee.  I can't not choose him after NCAAs and OTT.  Carver is getting raucous as Lee doesn't need OT for this one.  5-2,6-4 type match.

PSU 6-3

149-TOSSUP

Yeah.  This too.  Surprised?  Not me.  Murin is a grinder, yes.  BB or SVN are absolute studs and will make this a match.  If it is Lee I expect a major for him over Murin.  I think BB ends up being redshirtted and SVN is the starter by this time.  I flipped a coin and it looks like Murin eeked it out.  A 7-6, 9-6 type match.

Tied 6-6

157

I am not calling this a tossup.  I expect it to be close, though, and I expect it to be Bearclaw by this time.  Another grinder that just wears out his young counterpart.  7-4, 8-4 type match that Brands seals in the last minute.

Iowa up 9-6 at the break.

165

Marinelli in a comfortable decision.  6-3, 8-3 type where Facundo only scores off escapes.

Iowa 12-6

174-TOSSUP

I don't think Kemererererr beats him again.  My opinion, but there is no arguing that this is not a tossup.  CS via 3-1, 4-1 type match.

Iowa 12-9

184

Brooks will beat whomever is across from him.  Badly.  If Brands a regular Decision, but tough.  If Assad a Major.  I have Brands right now, so a 10-3, 11-4 type match.

Tied 12-12

197 TOSSUP

Warner is boring good.  Only a few people can beat him and it is because they are elite at one area.  Dean is an elite rider.  Warner is bigger.  I just don't see Warner losing this.  6-3, 7-4 type match at that.

Iowa 15-12.

285-TOSSUP

Cassman is lean.  We don't know how he moves yet. We know how good Kerk looks at 250lbs.  I have Kerk cementing himself right in that tier in a back and forth, hard fought match that is decided by Carver.  Cassman via 8-6, 8-7 type match.

Iowa wins 18-12.

Could be worse with no Suriano, so 20-12, 21-12 type score.  I have it 3-3 on tossups too.  Iowa takes the tossup and it is a shutout.  Penn State takes them and it is 21-9.

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16 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said:

This matchup is over 3 months away.  Let's at least see what each lineup is before we do this.  

Three things:

1) They could meet in Florida in two months (assuming they both win their pools, and win their semi-finals); and

2) If so, Suriano won't be on the roster, as he is not currently enrolled (although that could change, assuming he actually is going to PSU); and finally

3) if so, then count Lee for a fall over whoever is sent to the slaughter by PSU.

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1 hour ago, klehner said:

Three things:

1) They could meet in Florida in two months (assuming they both win their pools, and win their semi-finals); and

2) If so, Suriano won't be on the roster, as he is not currently enrolled (although that could change, assuming he actually is going to PSU); and finally

3) if so, then count Lee for a fall over whoever is sent to the slaughter by PSU.

Curiosity:

The National Duals is 3 days after Semester One ends for Penn State.

If Nicky Skeletor is enrolled for Semester Two at Penn State, does that mean he can start competing after the completion of Semester One?

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16 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Curiosity:

The National Duals is 3 days after Semester One ends for Penn State.

If Nicky Skeletor is enrolled for Semester Two at Penn State, does that mean he can start competing after the completion of Semester One?

I don't believe so.  Consider someone who wrestles but never enrolls, or enrolls but never actually attends school.

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54 minutes ago, klehner said:

I don't believe so.  Consider someone who wrestles but never enrolls, or enrolls but never actually attends school.

I am along the lines of your thinking as well... just not sure of the technicalities of it is all.

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16 hours ago, wrstlingfan937 said:

Will the hawkeyes and fans at the carver arena be enough to hold back PSU?! 8 out of the 10 matches will have ranked contenders and a total of 3 #1 Vs #2 matches ( according to inter mat rankings that were updated in September.) While Iowa claimed a national title PSU crowned 4 compared to the 1 individual national champion Iowa crowned. As we all know this will be a nail bitter and to expect always the unexpected at this dual meet. Below is my opinion on what may take place. 

4points 125 #1( Lee) VS (Suriano?) Prob will be #2    This will be absolutely electrifying if this goes down

4 points 133 #4(desanto) Vs #1(RBY)      This will be interesting due to desanto being injured the last two times they matched up, as I would love to see him pull it off,

 3 points 141 #2 (Eierman) Vs #1(Lee)     A grudge match from the finals last year, carver arena will help Eierman pull it off!

6 points 149 #10(Murin)Vs Open

4 points 157 #6 (Young) vs #26( Lee)                            This will be the unexpected moment in the dual meet

6 points 165 #2 (Marinelli) vs OPEN

3 Points 174 #2 (Kemerer) Vs #1(Starocci)                   Another grudge match that will end in the hawkeyes favor.

6 points 184 #15(Brands) vs #1 (Brooks)                            

4 points 197 #3 (Warner) VS #4 (Dean)                     

6 points HWT  #3 (Cassioppi) Vs #5 (Kerkvliet)         Cassioppi aint playing around this year!

28- 18 IOWA!

Has Suriano announced or are you guessing?

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These predictions are all fine and good but with current supply chain issues if Iowa doesn't recieve their Geritol shipment the lions will be rolling thu them old hawkeyes like ... well you know ... that green stuff thru a goose:0

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If Suriano goes to Ohio State it moves them into trophy contention.  I read that rumor yesterday.  Who knows...   If Suriano goes 133 I think he's the favorite.  From a style perspective, no one at 133 has the offense to take him down.  Fix hasn't taken him down in about 30 minutes of wrestling.  If he drops, I think the weight is a factor that is not in his favor.  He looked the best at 133, but the PSU fans are hoping for 125 and PSU and that's understandable, but I don't think it's best for him.  

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1 hour ago, KTI said:

If Suriano goes to Ohio State it moves them into trophy contention.  I read that rumor yesterday.  Who knows...   If Suriano goes 133 I think he's the favorite.  From a style perspective, no one at 133 has the offense to take him down.  Fix hasn't taken him down in about 30 minutes of wrestling.  If he drops, I think the weight is a factor that is not in his favor.  He looked the best at 133, but the PSU fans are hoping for 125 and PSU and that's understandable, but I don't think it's best for him.  

Bratke?  Is that you, bud?

Every 'credible' source is still pointing to PSU.  Your Flony, CP said Ohio State, Nebraska, and Iowa State... Askren's reaction was adorably accurate.  He laughed at him.

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125 - suriano by decision. Lee needs knees to beat suriano imo. Maybe I'm wrong. 

133 - rby by submission. Rby hits his "dirty" nearside cradle and ads taps out. Again. 

141 - Lee by decision. Should be one of several battles though I wouldn't be surprised to see eirmann "sit" while turk gets thrown out for the dual.

149 - van Ness by decision. Just better than murin. Will be close though as murin definitely has the experience here.

157 - young by decision. Don't see Lee having much here but young is likely to let it stay close. 

165 - Marinelli by decision but will lose the se match on Friday at ncaas in typical Marinelli fashion.

174 - starrocci by decision. Kem likely won't make any more big folk gains but should be wrapping up his PhD if nothing else. Would not be surprised to see kem win here, but startocci is only going to keep getting better.

184 - brooks by major. Just better than Assad or brands. Probably just a decision but I thought I'd make a bold prediction in at least one match.

197 - dean or beard decisions Warner. Warner will have a mental lapse and lose last second to either guy.

285 - Cass by decision. This could go the other way depending on healing and improvements made by kirk. Still favor big Tony. 

 

25 to 9 Penn state final score.

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