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14 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

No idea where either Seabass or Vito is going, but I'd like to see some competition at 125.  Any can't  miss freshmen coming in to spice the soup?

As far as I know - these would have been the most likely candidates to make an impression at 125:

1) Brett Ungar (Cornell Greyshirt)

2) Richie Figueroa (ASU redshirt)

3) Gary Steen (PSU starter unless Suriano joins)

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7 hours ago, flyingcement said:

As far as I know - these would have been the most likely candidates to make an impression at 125:

1) Brett Ungar (Cornell Greyshirt)

2) Richie Figueroa (ASU redshirt)

3) Gary Steen (PSU starter unless Suriano joins)

Is Greg D. considered a freshman?

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3 hours ago, klehner said:

Is Greg D. considered a freshman?

Greg D. Is a freshman. Brett Ungar is a greyshirt at Cornell, so he he may be a factor next year, but not this year.

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On 10/23/2021 at 12:03 PM, Fletcher said:

Why? 99% of us are here to discuss wrestling and don't care about this personal dispute. Never letting something go is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness.

Stop perpetuating it then Fletch...

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21 minutes ago, Roadkill said:

He may be overlooking Mr. Eierman at his own peril.  In addition, he may want to work on losing to Wilson by less than a major before being "world class"!

But, bravado is ABSOLUTELY an NJ thing, so this is exactly what should be expected!!

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1 hour ago, MSU158 said:

He may be overlooking Mr. Eierman at his own peril.  In addition, he may want to work on losing to Wilson by less than a major before being "world class"!

But, bravado is ABSOLUTELY an NJ thing, so this is exactly what should be expected!!

He did not say Rivera was world class. He said Lee was world class.

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4 hours ago, MSU158 said:

He may be overlooking Mr. Eierman at his own peril.  In addition, he may want to work on losing to Wilson by less than a major before being "world class"!

But, bravado is ABSOLUTELY an NJ thing, so this is exactly what should be expected!!

Wilson is going 149 so that’s not an issue, and if Seabass is fully filled out for the weight this year I think he can beat Eierman and everyone else, I just don’t expect him to put it all together and beat them all in one weekend 

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On 10/23/2021 at 12:03 PM, Fletcher said:

Why? 99% of us are here to discuss wrestling and don't care about this personal dispute. Never letting something go is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness.

99% may be here for wrestling but extraneous sub threads are certainly not 1% rare around these parts.

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16 hours ago, hammerlockthree said:

didn't he get third after being upset by mueller....

1 out of 3 could keep him playing baseball, but I am pretty sure that percentage wouldn't keep him playing in any of the other major sports.  Plus, it helped that he only hit the 7 and 8 seeds in wrestlebacks, both were freshmen and he beat the 8 seed on the front side already. 

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2 hours ago, MSU158 said:

1 out of 3 could keep him playing baseball, but I am pretty sure that percentage wouldn't keep him playing in any of the other major sports.  Plus, it helped that he only hit the 7 and 8 seeds in wrestlebacks, both were freshmen and he beat the 8 seed on the front side already. 

Still doesn't help the apparently growing concensus that he never wrestles back....

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2 hours ago, hammerlockthree said:

Still doesn't help the apparently growing concensus that he never wrestles back....

I don't think anyone is saying he doesn't wrestle back and if they were, they wouldn't be accurate.  Even his 1st season, he won 4 matches in wrestlebacks to take 8th.  The issue is more about the apparent "grit" he shows on the winner's side vs the consis.  In many of the matches he won in the consis he was simply the superior wrestler.  But, there were matches like NaTo his freshman season, where he looked like a deer in headlights and the match against Wilson he looked like he was already making his plans for Easter...

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