LJB 2,093 Report post Posted December 2, 2021 i have not watched one of these "cross-matchups" where the outcome was ever in doubt no matter how gimmicky they made the rules... whichever opponent was in their preferred discipline, they won... end of story.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefolkfan 20 Report post Posted December 4, 2021 An interesting recent video related to the topic of this thread: basically what it is : - the Russian Wrestling Federation did more a show wrestling tournament this week and a journalist analyzed how it differs really from MMA shows like the UFC. - btw Sidakov beat Kadimagomedov handily, repeat of Olympic final. And Sadulaev beat Nurov 5:1. - Journalist says the wrestlers are much less friendly to questions than MMA fighters and that the shows are badly organized. He wanted to know how strong Sadulaev is but noone wanted to answer him. And also, how would Sidakov vs. Makhachev end in wrestling 5 min then grappling 5 min? or Sadulaev vs. Jon Jones? or Sadulaev vs. Oleinik in grappling? And why doesn't Sadulaev want to wrestle with MMA fighters? - Sadulaev at 8:24 says about wrestlers turned MMA fighters: basically he says "losers who failed at wanting to be wrestlers" seems semi-jokingly or not clear. Its quite clear Sad is annoyed with hearing about "the great wrestlers in MMA". - Gatsalov at 9:13 says he had offer to fight in the UFC but decided to focus on wrestling/coaching as he loves that and they kept asking him if he grappled to try it and he said but that he has not been subbed yet. They ask him also Makhachev vs. Sidakov to see the 5 min wrestling and 5 min grappling. And he says yes and that there will be future such match-ups happening for sure. - The whole thing says that wrestling federations/wrestlers are spoiled to rely on money from government and so on and not actually try to be entertaining for the media. - He wants wrestling to be more like a show and more open to the public like MMA. 1 Shiraz123 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shiraz123 853 Report post Posted December 5, 2021 21 hours ago, freefolkfan said: An interesting recent video related to the topic of this thread: basically what it is : - the Russian Wrestling Federation did more a show wrestling tournament this week and a journalist analyzed how it differs really from MMA shows like the UFC. - btw Sidakov beat Kadimagomedov handily, repeat of Olympic final. And Sadulaev beat Nurov 5:1. - Journalist says the wrestlers are much less friendly to questions than MMA fighters and that the shows are badly organized. He wanted to know how strong Sadulaev is but noone wanted to answer him. And also, how would Sidakov vs. Makhachev end in wrestling 5 min then grappling 5 min? or Sadulaev vs. Jon Jones? or Sadulaev vs. Oleinik in grappling? And why doesn't Sadulaev want to wrestle with MMA fighters? - Sadulaev at 8:24 says about wrestlers turned MMA fighters: basically he says "losers who failed at wanting to be wrestlers" seems semi-jokingly or not clear. Its quite clear Sad is annoyed with hearing about "the great wrestlers in MMA". - Gatsalov at 9:13 says he had offer to fight in the UFC but decided to focus on wrestling/coaching as he loves that and they kept asking him if he grappled to try it and he said but that he has not been subbed yet. They ask him also Makhachev vs. Sidakov to see the 5 min wrestling and 5 min grappling. And he says yes and that there will be future such match-ups happening for sure. - The whole thing says that wrestling federations/wrestlers are spoiled to rely on money from government and so on and not actually try to be entertaining for the media. - He wants wrestling to be more like a show and more open to the public like MMA. Interesting. Completely understand how questions like that could be somewhat annoying or even insulting to those guys. Was this guy an MMA reporter who went to this event and received a bad reception? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefolkfan 20 Report post Posted December 6, 2021 Right, to me he sounded like a person who is very familiar with MMA reporting and attending events, definitely yes. He is basically right in a way that wrestling can be improved a bit in terms of show-making, but definitely sounded a bit dismissive. And see the comments too, can be translated to English. In some sense, it is likely that wrestling can get more popularity if such Sad/Khabib or Sidakov/Makhachev match-ups are created. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 588 Report post Posted December 6, 2021 Interesting, in the 4th video (the weigh-in video) on the Alrosa thread, there is a clip of Sadulaev practicing his striking at 10:15 into the video. Also found it interesting that he has "Wrestler" on the back of his shirt as he is punching away. Thanks for all the videos freefolk! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefolkfan 20 Report post Posted December 6, 2021 Yes, I've seen other videos where Sad is practicing striking. It seems this comment of Sadulaev that most MMA fighters are failed wrestlers definitely annoyed some people there. But somehow Sad doesn't seem to think Khabib or Islam or others are great wrestlers, and he implies it, which definitely annoys MMA fans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefolkfan 20 Report post Posted December 6, 2021 Jabrailov got sick so match with Snyder won't happen -- but there is some cup they participate in shortly after (Nolf, Snyder). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites