nhs67 2,060 Report post Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, SignificantACCBias said: Ya'll know in a few years (when last year's freshmen are gone) eligibility will go back to normal and you'll only be butthurt when a wrestler from your school loses to a Mormon...right? You assume Cael won't inspire us to all convert by then for winning 12 of the previous 14 NCAA Championships... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,505 Report post Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, ShakaAloha said: Tom Brady and Justin Fields are both professionals and post-college. Not the same at all. To use your NFL QB analogy, Micic, Eierman, and Kemerer are if guys like Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen still stayed in college to play against Bryce Young and Caleb Williams. So for them to stay in college they would need to have college eligibilty. That would be awful. Imagine if people of different ages were allowed to play against each other? Where does it end? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 427 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: So for them to stay in college they would need to have college eligibilty. That would be awful. Imagine if people of different ages were allowed to play against each other? Where does it end? I said this earlier in the thread: people of different ages should wrestle each other at the Olympics or senior worlds. It would be one thing if they were still competing due to serving in the military or going on a religious mission, but that's not the situation here. I used to be a fan of all three, but now I wonder what goes through the heads of guys like Micic, Eierman, and Kemerer. Staying in college for almost a decade and beating up on guys who are now 7-8 years younger. Gaming the system to get extra years with greyshirts, redshirts, medical redshirts, Olympic redshirts, etc., but no NCAA title to show for it. I get that it is permissible under the rules, but it just doesn't feel right and I can't pull for them anymore. In the meantime, other guys like Otoguro, Shakiev, and Nokhodilarimi (who are all significantly younger) are winning Olympic and World senior level medals. 1 wamba reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 21 hours ago, MSU158 said: This is a very inaccurate take. My issue was with those that seemed considerably "bothered" by it. Not, with those that simply disagree with it. That is why I responded to SStern because his response seemed hypocritical and contradictory. If he wouldn't have said it didn't bother him one bit after saying everything prior, I wouldn't have even responded. To be clear, I am all for those that have differing opinions from mine. I am wrong PLENTY and happily admit it. I simply have no issue questioning something when I DO NOT understand that differing opinion. Is that ok? Sure. Have fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,012 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 8 hours ago, ShakaAloha said: I said this earlier in the thread: people of different ages should wrestle each other at the Olympics or senior worlds. It would be one thing if they were still competing due to serving in the military or going on a religious mission, but that's not the situation here. I used to be a fan of all three, but now I wonder what goes through the heads of guys like Micic, Eierman, and Kemerer. Staying in college for almost a decade and beating up on guys who are now 7-8 years younger. Gaming the system to get extra years with greyshirts, redshirts, medical redshirts, Olympic redshirts, etc., but no NCAA title to show for it. I get that it is permissible under the rules, but it just doesn't feel right and I can't pull for them anymore. In the meantime, other guys like Otoguro, Shakiev, and Nokhodilarimi (who are all significantly younger) are winning Olympic and World senior level medals. Newsflash: Some people genuinely like Folkstyle and the ONLY way for them to stick with it for as long as they can IS to wrestle in College... 1 SignificantACCBias reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,060 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, MSU158 said: Newsflash: Some people genuinely like Folkstyle and the ONLY way for them to stick with it for as long as they can IS to wrestle in College... Watch out. People aren't ready to talk as if NCAA D1 is the highest level of Folkstyle possible on the planet. That can't possibly be true, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Nasty 43 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 Was everyone this upset when Chris Weinke won a national championship and the Heisman at age 28? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,553 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, Big Nasty said: Was everyone this upset when Chris Weinke won a national championship and the Heisman at age 28? How many years did it take Weinke to get his college degree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,012 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, ionel said: How many years did it take Weinke to get his college degree? I believe he left to pursue baseball and when that didn't work out, he came back to FSU and played Football... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,553 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, MSU158 said: I believe he left to pursue baseball and when that didn't work out, he came back to FSU and played Football... That wasn't the question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,016 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 How many years did it take Weinke to get his college degree?So, wait, is the problem how much older the guys are than the younger college wrestlers, or....how long it takes them to get a degree?Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 1 SignificantACCBias reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryCallo 94 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 I have a Micic related question - when folks listed the top 4 at 141 - was it a typo to leave out the 2X NCAA champ at that weight? Or do you all have some inside info? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le duke 417 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 I have a Micic related question - when folks listed the top 4 at 141 - was it a typo to leave out the 2X NCAA champ at that weight? Or do you all have some inside info?Most people think he’s going 149.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,070 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Le duke said: Most people think he’s going 149. Weight or age? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryCallo 94 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 Well - if that is the thought process - then I suppose that makes sense. Thanks for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 996 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, JerryCallo said: Well - if that is the thought process - then I suppose that makes sense. Thanks for that. Willie been reporting for awhile that yianni is going 149 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 996 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ionel said: How many years did it take Weinke to get his college degree? 4 enrolled in 1997 and got his degree in 2000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 996 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 21 hours ago, BlueWolverine said: This season will be Micic's fourth NCAAs. He was injured last year and did not compete. My issue with Micic is more the multiple Olympic redshirts and regular redshirt and COVID opt out, that’s 4 years he could’ve wrestled and chose not too , I’ve always had the opinion all guys should get 4 cracks at ncaa but him getting a 2nd Olympic redshirt while he’s competing for another country always seemed a little messed up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,553 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: 4 enrolled in 1997 and got his degree in 2000 Exactly, just a normal college experience after playing baseball straight out of high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,012 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ionel said: That wasn't the question. Sorry, but I believed some added context was important in this case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryCallo 94 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 Chris Weinke and Joe Mauer both went to Cretin Durham Hall HS in St Paul, MN - Bobby Bowden recruited them both to play QB at FSU - so I guess he was 1 for 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StallWarning 184 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 Can we just all agree that whenever a wrestler from your favorite school does X it's fine but if it's another school they are disgusting sickos making a mockery of the whole sport? If we just agree that this is the rule we can all move on. 2 SignificantACCBias and BlueWolverine reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,505 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, StallWarning said: Can we just all agree that whenever a wrestler from your favorite school does X it's fine but if it's another school they are disgusting sickos making a mockery of the whole sport? If we just agree that this is the rule we can all move on. My corollary rule is "It is only your inconsistencies that bother me". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,505 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Posted in wrong thread Edited November 4, 2021 by Wrestleknownothing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,553 Report post Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, StallWarning said: Can we just all agree that whenever a wrestler from your favorite school does X it's fine but if it's another school they are disgusting sickos making a mockery of the whole sport? If we just agree that this is the rule we can all move on. Sure as long as we can also all agree that anything posted after page 3 on themat forum threads is wrong. That's where all the arguments start so we all know the post is just plain wrong. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites