TBar1977 4,496 Report post Posted November 4, 2021 My first look at anyone's rankings this year I check out Intermat and see they have Iowa ranked first in tournament rankings 18 points ahead of PSU. The shocker to me is that this 18 points is with PSU having only 6 scoring wrestlers. 7 if you count Joe Lee at 25th. I thought the gap would be much wider than this given Iowa has 10 scorers to PSU having only 6/7. We all know PSU will score something at those those other weights. Maybe this is doable for PSU. https://intermatwrestle.com/rankings/college/125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcoyote 10 Report post Posted November 4, 2021 Why would you think that? It was 129-113.5 last year. "Same" teams coming back and as you know PSU will be better at their "non scoring" weights than last year. Probably will be closer this year if anything, if PSU doesn't win. But I think you knew this a along Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,023 Report post Posted November 4, 2021 38 minutes ago, wcoyote said: Why would you think that? It was 129-113.5 last year. "Same" teams coming back and as you know PSU will be better at their "non scoring" weights than last year. Probably will be closer this year if anything, if PSU doesn't win. But I think you knew this a along Big time 'Jimmy Cinnabons Bo Basset is Iowa's to lose' vibes on this post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,418 Report post Posted November 4, 2021 57 minutes ago, wrestlingphish said: Big time 'Jimmy Cinnabons Bo Basset is Iowa's to lose' vibes on this post. Are you referring to Tbar or coyote? I think Tbar was doing the Cinnabons thing last year...the OP seems to be admitting PSU has a good chance to win Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcoyote 10 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 Yes, that was what I was implying. I mean, does anyone know the last time a team returned 4 national champs and werent' the favroites? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,325 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, wcoyote said: Yes, that was what I was implying. I mean, does anyone know the last time a team returned 4 national champs and werent' the favroites? Probably the year after the team with 4 national champs finished second. 1 Husker_Du reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,230 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) This will be interesting. I think Iowa under performed and PSU over performed. Throw in Suriano and we have a horse race Edited November 5, 2021 by Plasmodium Houses don't race Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,418 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 Seems like Suriano to PSU may be losing steam...but possibly getting Drew Hildebrandt instead 2 flyingcement and Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Le duke 398 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 This will be interesting. I think Iowa under performed and PSU over performed. Throw in Suriano and we have a house race And a 25-30lb heavier Kerkvliet, SVN at 149, Joe Lee at 157 with a healthy knee, Facundo…Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 Are there any current rumors on suriano? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcoyote 10 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 So the first time ever? Interesting statistic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,325 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, wcoyote said: So the first time ever? Interesting statistic. But I think you knew that. BTW...if you click "quote" it will show what post you are responding to instead of it looking like a random post talking to yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,496 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 12 hours ago, 1032004 said: Are you referring to Tbar or coyote? I think Tbar was doing the Cinnabons thing last year...the OP seems to be admitting PSU has a good chance to win Never did the Cinnabons thing and not doing it here either. Your second part is what I am doing, which is to say that I think if the spread is this close with PSU basically having only 6 scoring wrestlers then, given their roster, PSU should stand a great chance at overtaking Iowa if they can field ten healthy wrestlers. Four guys can and should get those 19 points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcoyote 10 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 15 hours ago, Idaho said: But I think you knew that. BTW...if you click "quote" it will show what post you are responding to instead of it looking like a random post talking to yourself. I did not know that hence why I asked. I knew the quote thing I was just being lazy. 1 Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcoyote 10 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 7 hours ago, TBar1977 said: Never did the Cinnabons thing and not doing it here either. Your second part is what I am doing, which is to say that I think if the spread is this close with PSU basically having only 6 scoring wrestlers then, given their roster, PSU should stand a great chance at overtaking Iowa if they can field ten healthy wrestlers. Four guys can and should get those 19 points. So we are agreeing. My bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 988 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Plasmodium said: This will be interesting. I think Iowa under performed and PSU over performed. Throw in Suriano and we have a horse race Iowa underperforming and PSU overperforming at NCAAs has been happening every year for the last decade… 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 326 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, SetonHallPirate said: Iowa underperforming and PSU overperforming at NCAAs has been happening every year for the last decade… To be fair PSU outperforms about every expectation at NCAAs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 307 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, SetonHallPirate said: Iowa underperforming and PSU overperforming at NCAAs has been happening every year for the last decade… Oof. Why you gotta remind me of that? Haha. Granted, a few of those underperformances had a large injury component - Telford and Stoll immediately come to mind. Still, I don't have a good rationalization for why Dziewa, St. John, Sorensen, Mike Evans, Gilman, and maybe a couple others I'm forgetting, had an apparent dip in performance at NCAAs their senior years compared to prior seasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,596 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 20 hours ago, 1032004 said: Seems like Suriano to PSU may be losing steam...but possibly getting Drew Hildebrandt instead That would be a turn of events sense Hildebrandt recently posted he was moving on. But, I wouldn’t mind seeing him give it one last go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,668 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 21 hours ago, 1032004 said: Seems like Suriano to PSU may be losing steam. I thought Suriano was going to CBUS... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,457 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mphillips said: I thought Suriano was going to CBUS... 1 1 Mphillips and Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 481 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Sigh, y’all is making me quote FRL.. “rankings are not predictions”.. though to be fair, the drama queen Tbar is just wanting to be a fragile nittany lion Edited November 5, 2021 by jp157 Not instead of no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,668 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 @ionel, Right on time. "Get On It." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poorwrestler 33 Report post Posted November 5, 2021 Calling my shot that Kerkvliet is definitely the second best heavyweight, and is capable of beating Gable. Rankings editors will find out soon enough. And that’s from a gopher season ticket holder. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SignificantACCBias 81 Report post Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, MadMardigain said: That would be a turn of events sense Hildebrandt recently posted he was moving on. But, I wouldn’t mind seeing him give it one last go. He entered the transfer portal three or four days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
