hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 125: Latona dec Heinselman (3-0) 133: Myers maj Koontz (7-0) 141: Gerardi dec Decatur (10-0) 149: Sasso dec Andonian (10-3) 157: Brady dec Hubbard (13-3) 165: Kharchla maj Ulrey (13-7) 174: Lewis dec Smith (16-7) 184: Bolen maj Jordan (20-7) 197: Hoffman dec Howard (20-10) 285: Orndorff dec Traxler (20-13 Tech) If they put in gallagher I'll take him by decision making it 17-16 VT. I think this is gonna be a really good duel, some of you know I am critical of tOSU (i don't hate them, i just don't think they are well coached), so you can all call me an idiot if my predictions get blown up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGranby 221 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I think this is gonna be a really good duel, some of you know I am critical of tOSU (i don't hate them, i just don't think they are well coached), so you can all call me an idiot if my predictions get blown up. Off topic - but do you think if/when Jaggers takes over that it will be an improvement? No hidden connotations or anything of the sort. Just curious what the outlook of that situation is from someone who is not a fan of Ryan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,009 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 March Kharchla is going to mollywhop November Kharchla. Avoid early season results as he works back into form. 2 Wrestleknownothing and TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, iGranby said: Off topic - but do you think if/when Jaggers takes over that it will be an improvement? No hidden connotations or anything of the sort. Just curious what the outlook of that situation is from someone who is not a fan of Ryan. I have to say I don't. I think great assistants really lift programs, so if Jaggers was the solution it would already be masking what I am seeing now. If I thought tOSU was going to do better with Jaggers, I'd have to assume he was a better CEO type coach than Ryan, and I think Ryan is the ultimate CEO type coach. 1 1 Mphillips and Cradle1 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingcement 751 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 125: Latona dec Heinselman (3-0) 133: Myers tech Koontz (8-0) 141: D'Emilio dec Hillegas/Gerardi (8-3) (heard Decatur was injured) 149: Sasso dec Andonian (8-6) 157: Hubbard dec Brady (8-9) 165: Kharchla maj Ulrey (8-13) 174: Lewis dec Smith (11-13) 184: Bolen dec Jordan (14-13) 197: Hoffman dec Howard (14-16) 285: Traxler dec Orndorff (17-16 Tech) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,437 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I think this is gonna be a really good duel, paging AHamilton 1 3 fadzaev2, AHamilton, Plasmodium and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ionel said: paging AHamilton duel is the correct word. "Dual" is an adjective. The misconception stems from people saying "dual meet". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: duel is the correct word. "Dual" is an adjective. The misconception stems from people saying "dual meet". I'm not using, 'duel.' Not doing it... 2 AHamilton and wpialchamp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mphillips said: I'm not using, 'duel.' Not doing it... You don't have to, i'm just not gonna take a bunch of snarky remarks on the subject. Someone get back on the topic jeeze Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,437 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: You don't have to, i'm just not gonna take a bunch of snarky remarks on the subject. I take that as an insult! Pistols at dawn? 3 boconnell, hammerlockthree and AHamilton reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 125: Latona dec Heinselman (3-0) VT 133: Myers maj Koontz (7-0) VT 141: D'Emilio dec Hillegas/Gerardi (7-3) VT 149: Sasso dec Andonian (7-6) VT 157: Brady dec Hubbard (10-6) VT 165: Kharchla maj Ulrey (10-10) 174: Lewis dec Smith (13-10) VT 184: Bolen dec Jordan (16-10) VT 197: Hoffman dec Howard (16-13) VT 285: Orndorff dec Traxler (16-16) 3rd criteria I believe. Total Match points scored. Not even gonna guess at that. GO BUCKS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: No need for that jab just because you think this thread needs a shot in the arm when we talk about Tom Ryan’s squad. Bwahahahahaha...... 2 AHamilton and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,976 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 125 Heinselman DEC Latona tOSU 3-0 133 Myers DEC Koontz Tied 3-3 141 Gerardi DEC D'Emilio VT 6-3 149 Sasso MAJ Andonian tOSU 7-6 157 Brady DEC Gallagher VT 9-7 165 Kharchla DEC Ulrey tOSU 10-9 174 Smith DEC Lewis tOSU 13-9 184 Jordan DEC Bolen tOSU 16-9 197 Hoffman DEC Smith tOSU 19-9 285 Traxler DEC Orndorff tOSU 19-12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,976 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 I could see either team pitch a 30-0 shutout. Every match is contestable. It's a great dual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,437 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I could see either team pitch a 30-0 shutout. Every match is contestable. It's a great dual. well said sir :) 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,976 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 I feel bad for the Buckeyes. If the dual goes how I thought the UNC-Nebraska dual was going to go, VTech is going to destroy them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I feel bad for the Buckeyes. If the dual goes how I thought the UNC-Nebraska dual was going to go, VTech is going to destroy them. "18-16 in favor of UNC tonight." Please no more OSU predictions from you. :- \ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Mallard 371 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 14 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: I have to say I don't. I think great assistants really lift programs, so if Jaggers was the solution it would already be masking what I am seeing now. If I thought tOSU was going to do better with Jaggers, I'd have to assume he was a better CEO type coach than Ryan, and I think Ryan is the ultimate CEO type coach. I disagree with this. I think that leadership role is too important. A change, even to somone in-house can have a major changing effect. I mean, look at Roger Chandler at Michigan St. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,980 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 46 minutes ago, Drake_Mallard said: I disagree with this. I think that leadership role is too important. A change, even to somone in-house can have a major changing effect. I mean, look at Roger Chandler at Michigan St. Although true in many cases, he specifically pointed out why it wouldn’t be in this one. Ryan has proven he is an exceptional CEO. This is extremely evident by his recruiting, facilities and athletic department/booster support. Even his RTC has been top notch until he lost Rosselli . Truth be told, any issues they have are on the mat. This falls more on his support staff. Not quite reaching the top in Folk or the recent semi collapse of the RTC seems to stem from the loss of his coaches “in the field”. You can’t just replace Rosselli and Dlagnev and then Snyder was quite crippling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,976 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Mphillips said: "18-16 in favor of UNC tonight." Please no more OSU predictions from you. :- \ I really thought UNC was going to have more after being able to make adjustments in the tOSU dual loss. I was very wrong. Not just that they seemed quite flat, but that Nebraska has really improved and is ready as well. I hope they aren't peaking too early, though. If they continue to improve and can keep the intensity they are going to make some duals very interesting. They have Michigan and Iowa at home and travel to Penn State, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Drake_Mallard said: I mean, look at Roger Chandler at Michigan St. I don't know that I'm persuaded by this example..... If Jaggers leadership was gonna do the trick I think it would have already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGranby 221 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 19 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: I have to say I don't. I think great assistants really lift programs, so if Jaggers was the solution it would already be masking what I am seeing now. If I thought tOSU was going to do better with Jaggers, I'd have to assume he was a better CEO type coach than Ryan, and I think Ryan is the ultimate CEO type coach. Fair enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creek chub 218 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 125 VT -3 133 VT -4, 7-0 VT 141 VT -3, 10-0 VT 149 Bucks 3, 10-3 VT 157 VT 3, 13-3 VT 165 Bucks 4, 13-7 VT 174 VT 3, 16-7 VT 184 VT 4, 20-7 VT 197 Bucks 3, 20-10 VT Hvy 3 VT, 23-10 VT with maroon and orange glasses on, don’t be surprised if Andonian dumps Sasso on his head and gets the upset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,117 Report post Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 5:52 PM, hammerlockthree said: I think this is gonna be a really good duel, some of you know I am critical of tOSU (i don't hate them, i just don't think they are well coached), so you can all call me an idiot if my predictions get blown up. You don't say... you only bring it up every day around here. Prediction looks about right. 141 probably most likely to flip, regardless of who VT puts out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,872 Report post Posted November 19, 2021 Surprised how many people picking VT at 141, give me D'Emilio there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites