spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Every year we have some freshman making their debut and usually there are 1 or 2 with national title hopes. Kharchla is on his 3rd year of college right? So I'm not counting him (Although he seems like the most capable making his starting debut) Are there any potential Freshman Finalist? or will it be a few years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 515 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 all the fifth year seniors will make this a lot harder. can't think of any weight where i think there is a good path for anyone new but assume that at least one will surprise me. 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 all the fifth year seniors will make this a lot harder. can't think of any weight where i think there is a good path for anyone new but assume that at least one will surprise me.Yeah same feeling, I feel like I'm missing somebody. I can't even come up with somebody where I say "maybe not consistently but this freshman could upset anyone" Almost all weights just seem overwhelming with "known talents" .... You're right, that Covid year definitely added difficulty for the new guys . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,994 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 No love for Braxton Amos? 4 flyingcement, jchapman, ugarte and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,994 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Jesse Ybarra(125) and Cullan Schriever(133) should also be in consideration, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sstern 190 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, spladle08 said: Every year we have some freshman making their debut and usually there are 1 or 2 with national title hopes. Kharchla is on his 3rd year of college right? So I'm not counting him (Although he seems like the most capable making his starting debut) Are there any potential Freshman Finalist? or will it be a few years? Kharchla is a redshirt freshman. 2nd year, I believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 No love for Braxton Amos?Amos is who I was missing. Dude is nails. Not sure he can make a finalist but definitely the most likely to AA. 100% great call Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Kharchla is a redshirt freshman. 2nd year, I believe.I think he had a good redshirt year, then missed a year with the knee right ?, Then we are caught up. Unless you're calling him 2nd year because of covid free-shirt everyone got. But I'm 90% sure he's 3rd . If I'm wrong I'm wrong 1 SignificantACCBias reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,994 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, spladle08 said: I think he had a good redshirt year, then missed a year with the knee right ?, Then we are caught up. Unless you're calling him 2nd year because of covid free-shirt everyone got. But I'm 90% sure he's 3rd . If I'm wrong I'm wrong You are correct. This is his third possible year he could compete collegiately. https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/57703/kharchla-carson/profile 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,994 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, Sstern said: Kharchla is a redshirt freshman. 2nd year, I believe. See above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, nhs67 said: No love for Braxton Amos? Speaking of Amos, have we seen him in folkstyle, redshirt or otherwise, against anyone with a pulse. Even exhibition? Not doubting his obvious talent, just a real question, I see him all the time in FS/GR, but I can't remember any (Folk) results of note./ Edited November 18, 2021 by spladle08 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,322 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, spladle08 said: Speaking of Amos, have we seen him in folkstyle, redshirt or otherwise, against anyone with a pulse. Even exhibition? Not doubting his obvious talent, just a real question, I see him all the time in FS/GR, but I can't remember any (Folk) results of note./ Well he is currently undefeated in college wrestling ;) I know he won Super 32 three times, not sure who he beat though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, jchapman said: Well he is currently undefeated in college wrestling ;) I know he won Super 32 three times, not sure who he beat though. I meant in the last 2 years-ish :) but yeah I know he's a tough customer. Just wondered if he had had any runs ins with killers. I'm sure we will get some good measuring sticks soon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,994 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, jchapman said: Well he is currently undefeated in college wrestling ;) I know he won Super 32 three times, not sure who he beat though. Daniel Greg Kerkvliet. 1 jchapman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: Daniel Greg Kerkvliet. You think an "In-shape" DK has a chance at the finals? (Obviously not a freshman, but curious) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,499 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: Daniel Greg Kerkvliet. If you are going to say Kerkvliet you probably should add in Starocci. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Just now, TBar1977 said: If you are going to say Kerkvliet you probably should add in Starocci. I think he was saying he beat Kerk at Super-32 but I don't keep up much with HS 3 jchapman, nhs67 and TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,499 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Just now, spladle08 said: You think an "In-shape" DK has a chance at the finals? (Obviously not a freshman, but curious) He beat Parris in freestyle and not in a purely freestyle way at far less than 100 percent. If he can do that then he can possibly make the finals. 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,499 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, spladle08 said: I think he was saying he beat Kerk at Super-32 but I don't keep up much with HS Gotcha. I still think Greg can possibly make finals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Just now, TBar1977 said: Gotcha. I still think Greg can possibly make finals. interested in him vs Cas, Parris, and GS.... whatever comes first, he slaughtered Gastank, might be a different animal this year. 1 TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,499 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, spladle08 said: interested in him vs Cas, Parris, and GS.... whatever comes first, he slaughtered Gastank, might be a different animal this year. I think a lot of us were trying to say last year that Greg looked completely different health wise when he came back just before the post season as he had looked in those rokfin match ups. I think if he is healthy he is a completely different wrestler than what you saw at Bigs and NCAAs. 2 spladle08 and bnwtwg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,984 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: He beat Parris in freestyle and not in a purely freestyle way at far less than 100 percent. If he can do that then he can possibly make the finals. That just isn't accurate to say when there isn't mat wrestling. That is going to be the KEY component on whether or not Kerk can beat these guys. There was never a doubt he is legit on his feet, but he got pounded by the top guys on bottom last year. 1 DocBZ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,499 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, MSU158 said: That just isn't accurate to say when there isn't mat wrestling. That is going to be the KEY component on whether or not Kerk can beat these guys. There was never a doubt he is legit on his feet, but he got pounded by the top guys on bottom last year. He was unhealthy last year too, and that is/was my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,669 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, spladle08 said: interested in him vs Cas, Parris, and GS.... whatever comes first, he slaughtered Gastank, might be a different animal this year. Gary is not a world beater by any means and I'm a Buckeye. 1 DocBZ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,104 Report post Posted November 18, 2021 Gary is not a world beater by any means and I'm a Buckeye.Oh in no way would I have predicted a win, but I didn't expect it to be so easy. He doesn't best top guys but if he doesn't get pinned he usually keeps it respectable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
