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On 11/19/2021 at 10:23 AM, MSU158 said:

Iowa simp???  I literally pointed out where I didn't think DeSanto can beat RBY.  My only other thing really about Iowa or PSU expectations was in regards to putting Bartlett into a can beat anyone but Yianni category while calling a guy that has AA'd every time more likely to lose in the R12.

If that is Iowa simping, what are all the other PSU fans in this thread doing???

you go out of your way to white knight for Iowa.

JFC, you're a Michigan Stater not a Hawk, have some dignity!

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22 hours ago, PSUSMC said:

you go out of your way to white knight for Iowa.

JFC, you're a Michigan Stater not a Hawk, have some dignity!

This is so comically untrue.  If you go over to HR you would see I am barely even considered an Iowa fan at all.  You guys just get upset more so because I don't slobber all over everything that PSU does and don't let many of you run all over Iowa in the process. 

Also, if you actually paid attention, I have repeatedly said I will always root for MSU first and foremost but, they will NEVER be truly relevant in the national scene.  As such, I started to look elsewhere and that branching off actually started  with VTech, because of Metcalf and Brands and then that followed them to Iowa.  

FInally, did you actually attend PSU?  Because I didn't just choose to be an MSU fan. I went through the entire MSU process from the beginning, ie. school, practice, competition, travel, graduation, alumni help, donations and all of that while growing more sour with Minkel by the moment.  Inevitably that lack of relationship along with the way he ran the program into the ground, along with the Athletic Department not caring as it happened inevitably caused me to look elsewhere for DI level enjoyment.

So, when you call out my "dignity" you have NO F'ING CLUE" what you are talking about...

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1 hour ago, MSU158 said:

This is so comically untrue.  If you go over to HR you would see I am barely even considered an Iowa fan at all.  You guys just get upset more so because I don't slobber all over everything that PSU does and don't let many of you run all over Iowa in the process. 

Also, if you actually paid attention, I have repeatedly said I will always root for MSU first and foremost but, they will NEVER be truly relevant in the national scene.  As such, I started to look elsewhere and that branching off actually started  with VTech, because of Metcalf and Brands and then that followed them to Iowa.  

FInally, did you actually attend PSU?  Because I didn't just choose to be an MSU fan. I went through the entire MSU process from the beginning, ie. school, practice, competition, travel, graduation, alumni help, donations and all of that while growing more sour with Minkel by the moment.  Inevitably that lack of relationship along with the way he ran the program into the ground, along with the Athletic Department not caring as it happened inevitably caused me to look elsewhere for DI level enjoyment.

So, when you call out my "dignity" you have NO F'ING CLUE" what you are talking about...

He is just busting your chops a little.  Lighten up Francis!!

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1 hour ago, MSU158 said:

This is so comically untrue.  If you go over to HR you would see I am barely even considered an Iowa fan at all.  You guys just get upset more so because I don't slobber all over everything that PSU does and don't let many of you run all over Iowa in the process. 

Iowa fans harass everyone on the net, even their own. Your true white knighting occurs here. 

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1 hour ago, Plasmodium said:

He is just busting your chops a little.  Lighten up Francis!!

Certain things are so inaccurate they go past "chop busting".  I put in more work than a vast majority when it comes to my own program.  I think I earned the right to be a fan of another.

Plus, I was really just trying to give him a hard time back by pushing the "did you actually go to that school" card.  I get a kick out of riling up the most diehard of PSU fans on here because they come off like PSU can do no wrong.  So, really, it isn't so much me "white knighting" for Iowa as I am "black knighting" on PSU!  And I have admitted that several times.

Also, we have a very specific name for the kind of fan I was referring to, since it is PREVALENT here in Michigan.  It is the "Walmart" Wolverine.  So, I was just pushing to see if he was a "Walmart" Nittany Lion!

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3 hours ago, MSU158 said:

This is so comically untrue. 

...you have NO F'ING CLUE" what you are talking about...

Dude, you're one of the biggest Iowa homers here, and pretty much everyone knows it.  But you know what else?  No one cares!  Be a homer.  Without a bunch of homers sniping at each other, these forums would be dead.  And to your credit, you do usually make an effort to trot out some actual facts to support your position, so sometimes you're even right, homer motivations notwithstanding.  But when you deny your bias or get all indignant about it, it just makes you look dishonest.  Don't do that, man.  Just say yeah, I'm an Iowa homer, but I'm still right because of fact X or Y.  All the other homers will do the same, and we'll all have a grand ol' time, arguing and eating turkey.

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13 minutes ago, BAC said:

Dude, you're one of the biggest Iowa homers here, and pretty much everyone knows it.  But you know what else?  No one cares!  Be a homer.  Without a bunch of homers sniping at each other, these forums would be dead.  And to your credit, you do usually make an effort to trot out some actual facts to support your position, so sometimes you're even right, homer motivations notwithstanding.  But when you deny your bias or get all indignant about it, it just makes you look dishonest.  Don't do that, man.  Just say yeah, I'm an Iowa homer, but I'm still right because of fact X or Y.  All the other homers will do the same, and we'll all have a grand ol' time, arguing and eating turkey.

On here,  by default, I am one of the biggest Iowa fans, that is true.  My point is I am really not near the level of "homer".  It's just that all the homers have basically left this site.  Hell, Vak is probably the biggest of an Iowa fan on here and he is from Florida...

As far as my Iowa "bias' goes, it really isn't that strong.  If I had to say who I would cheer for first at each weight(excepting MSU wrestlers because they will always have 1st dibs), Iowa actually wouldn't have many, as my true "bias" goes homegrown MI wrestlers most of the time.  

Here it goes:

125-Schroder

133- DeSanto

141- Simon

149-Storr/Parker tied

157-I actually like a ton of guys here and they aren't from Iowa or MI.  Would probably go Deakin, Teemer, Lee then Carr.

165-Marinelli, Valencia, Amine, and then Facundo will go near the top, even if he is PSU through and through.

174-Kemerer, Labriola and Plott

184-Amine, Hidlay, Keckeisen

197-Dean(although switching to PSU made it harder), Warner, Norfleet

285-Hillger, Stencel, Cass

So, even though it would probably kill Iowa's chances at winning a title,  I would cheer for these guys over their Iowa opponent...

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3 hours ago, PSUSMC said:

MSU - I am a Penn State (main campus) alumni.

I don't spend time at HR, so I have no care or idea what they think of you.

And, yeah, lighten up, it's just about Thanksgiving weekend.

Respect given. When you spent the time and the money, you have much more right to talk both ways. My issue is with people who chose to be fans of a certain school talking up the school they had no part of while blasting fans of another. Especially when that team is a powerhouse. 
 

it is real easy to choose to be a fan of the best team. It is a LOT harder to be way closer to a program that literally went from 3rd when I was there to scoring 1 point or less at NCAA’s…

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14 hours ago, Lurker said:

What about people that don't have a wrestling school?

 

EDIT:...meaning people that don't have a favorite D1 team.

Nothing says you have to and no one should tell you different. Like I said, I am often a fan of kids from Michigan first, no matter what team they are on.

In fact, it probably is easier to just be a fan of the wrestling and not getting bogged down in the my team is better than yours crap!

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17 hours ago, Lurker said:

What about people that don't have a wrestling school?

 

EDIT:...meaning people that don't have a favorite D1 team.

I would also be one of these.  I root for the underdogs usually as well as wrestlers from the Lehigh Valley.  There are also guys that are just fun to watch that I can't help but root for.

125: Pat McKee, Kysen Terukina

133: Austin DeSanto, Lucas Byrd

141: Andrew Alirez, Jesse Vasquez

149: Sammy Sasso, Ridge Lovett

157: Andrew Cerniglia

165: Keegan O'Toole

174: Mikey Labriola, Mikey O'Malley

184: John Poznanski, Donnell Washington

197: Louie DePrez, Greg Bulsak

285: Jordan Wood

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