RED 109 Report post Posted January 1 (edited) Unbelievable Edited January 1 by RED 1 Alwayswrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,500 Report post Posted January 1 Are we sure they just aren’t available because of the outbreak that happened on campus? Given the current way the team title is determined, putting anyone out there who isn’t completely ready to compete (e.g. somebody who missed practices recently) is a huge mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 (edited) Season is too long, coaches know it but don't do anything about it. Need a shorter season, NCAA to get interested in a dual meet(because I said dual-meet its correct) event that will contribute team points to the individual tournament at the end. The rub is that the qualification/seeding for the NCAA dual thing would have to be established the season before...but hell at least everything matters. Edited January 1 by hammerlockthree 1 red blades reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,667 Report post Posted January 1 52 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Season is too long, coaches know it but don't do anything about it. Need a shorter season, NCAA to get interested in a dual meet(because I said dual-meet its correct) event that will contribute team points to the individual tournament at the end. The rub is that the qualification/seeding for the NCAA dual thing would have to be established the season before...but hell at least everything matters. Dual meet is correct. Duel is fine. Duel meet is incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChicagoHawk 47 Report post Posted January 1 Why do ncaa football players/fans not complain about holiday bowl travel or the length of season? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Dual meet is correct. Duel is fine. Duel meet is incorrect. Yeah, I know.....look forward to your support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChicagoHawk said: Why do ncaa football players/fans not complain about holiday bowl travel or the length of season? because they(fans) are in an enviroment where every competition matters. And their (players) practices are much much much easier and less likely to cause injury. Edited January 1 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChicagoHawk 47 Report post Posted January 1 How does making the season shorter help with this problem then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 Just now, ChicagoHawk said: How does making the season shorter help with this problem then? Because you don't have to protect your athletes health/sanity nearly as much. You are giving me Tbar vibes in terms of ignorance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denger 363 Report post Posted January 1 It’s just so hard on us fans when the crème de la crème of American Folkstyle wrestlers resort to total cowardice to spite the dozens of dollars we spend to watch them from behind our computer screens…and to make hundreds of anonymous comments about them and their total disregard for OUR interests during a spike in some silly contagion in a global pandemic. Indeed, something is pathetic. 1 Mike Parrish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 (edited) 7 minutes ago, denger said: It’s just so hard on us fans when the crème de la crème of American Folkstyle wrestlers resort to total cowardice to spite the dozens of dollars we spend to watch them from behind our computer screens…and to make hundreds of anonymous comments about them and their total disregard for OUR interests during a spike in some silly contagion in a global pandemic. Indeed, something is pathetic. Vague, grandiose nonsense. Its like you were trying to imitate the flaws of the original post. Edited January 1 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 556 Report post Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, denger said: It’s just so hard on us fans when the crème de la crème of American Folkstyle wrestlers resort to total cowardice to spite the dozens of dollars we spend to watch them from behind our computer screens…and to make hundreds of anonymous comments about them and their total disregard for OUR interests during a spike in some silly contagion in a global pandemic. Indeed, something is pathetic. That is 100% pure sarcasm - Not vague, grand or grandiose in any sense of these words. What's truly sad here is that D-1 Nats in Detroit may well get cancelled, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: That is 100% pure sarcasm - Not vague, grand or grandiose in any sense of these words. What's truly sad here is that D-1 Nats in Detroit may well get cancelled, too. No. Its vague because it skirts around making any point of its own, and its grandiose because it pretends sarcasm is some sort of intellectual authority in itself. As far as nationals getting cancelled thats just a non-sequitar on your part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 756 Report post Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Billyhoyle said: Are we sure they just aren’t available because of the outbreak that happened on campus? Given the current way the team title is determined, putting anyone out there who isn’t completely ready to compete (e.g. somebody who missed practices recently) is a huge mistake. Unless it is the starters and nobody else who was exposed? Fourteen guys are going; only six starters are not going, five of whom have their positions locked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerniePragle 442 Report post Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: No. Its vague because it skirts around making any point of its own, and its grandiose because it pretends sarcasm is some sort of intellectual authority in itself. As far as nationals getting cancelled thats just a non-sequitar on your part. There is no greater intellectual authority than sarcasm. 3 hammerlockthree, GreatWhiteNorth and Mike Parrish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denger 363 Report post Posted January 1 30 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: That is 100% pure sarcasm - Not vague, grand or grandiose in any sense of these words. What's truly sad here is that D-1 Nats in Detroit may well get cancelled, too. I was going for absurdity through sarcasm, so thanks, I think. I really hope the current mutation balances out in a few weeks and we don't get any new curveballs. I want to see nationals as much as the next fan, which is woefully less than the competitors want their chance to reign. The recurring theme over the last few years (pre-pandemic too) that all these top caliber guys are just dodging one another to spite the fans - I think it's nonsense. Every elite wrestler I've ever met lives for competition. To say that we, the fans, are somehow being shorted in these equations is something special. 3 Mike Parrish, BerniePragle and GreatWhiteNorth reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, denger said: The recurring theme over the last few years (pre-pandemic too) that all these top caliber guys are just dodging one another to spite the fans - I think it's nonsense. Every elite wrestler I've ever met lives for competition. To say that we, the fans, are somehow being shorted in these equations is something special. This is a friendly post 1) you don't actually think anyone is doing anything to spite the fans 2) If athletes were being held back because of the fear that they would get covid, none of the teams holding people back would send anyone at all. Because they have to come back and wrestle. And its a 5 day quarantine regardless. 3) All this, like I said before, is because the season is too long and coaches are trying to prevent their athletes from getting busted up. 1 denger reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,500 Report post Posted January 1 36 minutes ago, klehner said: Unless it is the starters and nobody else who was exposed? Fourteen guys are going; only six starters are not going, five of whom have their positions locked. My thinking is maybe they missed practice/workout time because of everything going on. Not worth risking a bad weight cut/injury for the key guys. The other guys need experience though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker_Du 882 Report post Posted January 1 (edited) covid19 being the culprit would be a decent excuse if the ducking and dodging and resting in DI wrestling didn't start years before covid19 existed Edited January 1 by Husker_Du 3 Le duke, dman115 and hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 556 Report post Posted January 1 3 hours ago, RED said: Perhaps we should cancel everything and just show up for D-1 Nats in Detroit? Sad. 1 hour ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: What's truly sad here is that D-1 Nats in Detroit may well get cancelled, too. 1 hour ago, hammerlockthree said: As far as nationals getting cancelled thats just a non-sequitar on your part. No. It's clearly not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 1 minute ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: No. It's clearly not. you can't reference a comment you made which was predicated on a sarcastic comment by a third party as evidence that your comment had basis in a dialogue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 556 Report post Posted January 1 Just now, hammerlockthree said: you can't reference a comment you made which was predicated on a sarcastic comment by a third party as evidence that your comment had basis in a dialogue. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I just did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 Just now, GreatWhiteNorth said: Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I just did. but it made you look dumb... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 556 Report post Posted January 1 Maybe the implication that the D-1 Nats would still be around after all the other cancellations deserved a highlight. Particularly since it is far from given. Personally, I believe we'll have an NCAA tournament this year. But, at the same time, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it were to be cancelled. It's a legitimate point. You may agree or disagree. That's up to you. Labelling the point as a non-sequitar, is wrong. Saying I look 'dumb' doesn't amount to anything more than childish name calling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,637 Report post Posted January 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Maybe the implication that the D-1 Nats would still be around after all the other cancellations deserved a highlight. Particularly since it is far from given. Personally, I believe we'll have an NCAA tournament this year. But, at the same time, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it were to be cancelled. It's a legitimate point. You may agree or disagree. That's up to you. Labelling the point as a non-sequitar, is wrong. Saying I look 'dumb' doesn't amount to anything more than childish name calling. Everything in bold makes no sense in reference to anything i've said. Look up "straw man argument". I said "dumb" becuase you didn't respond to my post at all you just tried to avoid it with a snarky remark. Edited January 1 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
