Elevator 307 Report post Posted January 10 Watching Iowa and PSU matches I naturally asses who will win each weight at this dual and who will win NCAA's. Yes Michigan is tough, but do not put them quite there. Iowa -PSU dual - assuming no Covid problems - should be epic. Seems to me that 8 of 10 weights are one score close matches, with only 165 and 184 with very clear favorites. I am assuming Berge goes at 157 and is in form. So while the dual looks to be close in most matches, the team score final might not be. 125 - have not seen enough of either to be sure, 1 pt edge to Hildebrandt for experience 3-0 133 - RBY seems unstoppable 6-0 141 - Seems like the riddle is starting to get solved 9-0 149 - Iowa gets one back 9-3 157 - Berge is such an unknown, till I see him giving Iowa the edge 9-6 165- The Bull gets major 9-10 174 - Young Champ over Grandpa - pours it on in the 3rd - 12-10 184 - Assad mixes it up, but this does not work well 15-10 197 - Dean wins with relentless pace 18-10 285 - Skinny Hwt Championship Goes to Kerk w better mat wrestling 21-10 3 Plasmodium, flyingcement and portajohn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 10 Nice predictions. I'm feeling Ayala beats Hildebrandt if he can avoid going underneath, Bartlett beats Murins in OT, Brooks majors Assad, and healthy Kerk beats skinny Cass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,344 Report post Posted January 10 I predict at least 3 total starters out for some sort of reason, ending with a disappointed college wrestling fan base. 3 1 StallWarning, poorwrestler, agoff71 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, Idaho said: I predict at least 3 total starters out for some sort of reason, ending with a disappointed college wrestling fan base. I hope you're wrong even though you're probably right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted January 10 (edited) 8 minutes ago, portajohn said: Nice predictions. I'm feeling Ayala beats Hildebrandt if he can avoid going underneath, Bartlett beats Murins in OT, Brooks majors Assad, and healthy Kerk beats skinny Cass. Healthy Berge takes out GrandPa Young. Starocci beats Great GrandPa Kem. Nick Lee beats the Riddler. DeSanto melts down after RBY rocks his world a second time in Carver. Edited January 10 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,532 Report post Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Idaho said: I predict at least 3 total starters out for some sort of reason, ending with a disappointed college wrestling fan base. Shouldn't portajohn be our best source for who's out sick? Just asking for a bunch of wrestling fan friends. ;) Just now, portajohn said: I hope you're wrong even though you're probably right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 10 1 minute ago, ionel said: Shouldn't portajohn be our best source for who's out sick? Just asking for a bunch of wrestling fan friends. ;) This is true. I have quite the sample collection in my line of work but unlike other wrestling sources I respect the coaches and do not leak this info out of respect. 4 StallWarning, Elevator, Mphillips and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,732 Report post Posted January 10 3 minutes ago, portajohn said: This is true. I have quite the sample collection in my line of work but unlike other wrestling sources I respect the coaches and do not leak this info out of respect. “You cannot say ‘no’ to the people you love, not often. That’s the secret. And then when you do, it has to sound like a ‘yes’. Or you have to make them say ‘no.’ You have to take time and trouble.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,532 Report post Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, portajohn said: This is true. I have quite the sample collection in my line of work but unlike other wrestling sources I respect the coaches and do not leak this info out of respect. I've heard some of your locations have leaks, I'll not disclose specifics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Mphillips said: “You cannot say ‘no’ to the people you love, not often. That’s the secret. And then when you do, it has to sound like a ‘yes’. Or you have to make them say ‘no.’ You have to take time and trouble.” 1 minute ago, ionel said: I've heard some of your locations have leaks, I'll not disclose specifics. That's been dealt with. Back when things were good, me made the most of it. During the 08 recession, Mineo and I ran Johns into Canada... made a fortune, Saylor, too. As much as anyone, I loved him and trusted him. But not anymore. 3 Mphillips, Wrestleknownothing and GoNotQuietly reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,732 Report post Posted January 10 Perfect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,600 Report post Posted January 10 When is this dual? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, headshuck said: When is this dual? Jan 28th...& we have PSU/Mich Jan 21st. Great couple of weeks ahead 1 Elevator reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Poopy butthole 308 Report post Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Elevator said: Watching Iowa and PSU matches I naturally asses who will win each weight at this dual and who will win NCAA's. Yes Michigan is tough, but do not put them quite there. Iowa -PSU dual - assuming no Covid problems - should be epic. Seems to me that 8 of 10 weights are one score close matches, with only 165 and 184 with very clear favorites. I am assuming Berge goes at 157 and is in form. So while the dual looks to be close in most matches, the team score final might not be. 125 - have not seen enough of either to be sure, 1 pt edge to Hildebrandt for experience 3-0 133 - RBY seems unstoppable 6-0 141 - Seems like the riddle is starting to get solved 9-0 149 - Iowa gets one back 9-3 157 - Berge is such an unknown, till I see him giving Iowa the edge 9-6 165- The Bull gets major 9-10 174 - Young Champ over Grandpa - pours it on in the 3rd - 12-10 184 - Assad mixes it up, but this does not work well 15-10 197 - Dean wins with relentless pace 18-10 285 - Skinny Hwt Championship Goes to Kerk w better mat wrestling 21-10 All the picks you made are very sensible. I just have a hard time seeing it go this way. But that's what makes this fun! IOWA over PSU 16-15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingcement 813 Report post Posted January 11 Hildebrandt dec Ayala 3-0 Bravo Young dec DeSanto 6-0 Lee dec Eierman 9-0 Bartlett dec Murin 12-0 Young dec Berge 12-3 Marinelli dec Edsell 12-6 Starocci dec Kemerer 15-6 Brooks major Assad 19-6 Dean dec Warner 22-6 Kerkvliet dec Cassioppi 25-6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 11 15 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said: All the picks you made are very sensible. I just have a hard time seeing it go this way. But that's what makes this fun! IOWA over PSU 16-15 How do you see it going? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 11 1 hour ago, TBar1977 said: Healthy Berge takes out GrandPa Young. Hard to see that happening this late in the season. Maybe at Bigs or the tournament Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chucktown_Luke 38 Report post Posted January 11 I see it as matches split 5-5 and the winner is dependent on bonus points from Brooks and Marinelli. Ayala Dec Hildebrandt 3-0 Bravo Young dec DeSanto 3-3 Lee dec Eierman 3-6 Bartlett Dec Murin 3-9 Young dec Berge 6-9 Marinelli maj dec Edsell 10-9 Kemerer dec Starocci 13-9 Brooks major Dec Assad 13-13 Dean dec Warner 16-13 Cass Dec Kerkvliet 16-16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 426 Report post Posted January 11 2 hours ago, portajohn said: Nice predictions. I'm feeling Ayala beats Hildebrandt if he can avoid going underneath, Bartlett beats Murins in OT, Brooks majors Assad, and healthy Kerk beats skinny Cass. I also have Bartlett winning at 149 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 11 (edited) Ayala dec Hildebrandt (3-0) RBY dec Desanto (3-3) Lee dec Eierman (6-3) Bartlett dec Murin OT (9-3) Young MD Negron (9-7) Marinelli dec Berge/Edsell (10-7) (At this point all info on Berge is that he's most likely going 165) Starrocci dec Kem (10-10) Brooks MD Assad (14-10) Dean dec Warner (17-10) Kerk dec Cass (20-10) Edited January 11 by portajohn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,501 Report post Posted January 11 27 minutes ago, portajohn said: Ayala dec Hildebrandt (3-0) RBY dec Desanto (3-3) Lee dec Eierman (6-3) Bartlett dec Murin OT (9-3) Young MD Negron (9-7) Marinelli dec Berge/Edsell (10-7) (At this point all info on Berge is that he's most likely going 165) Starrocci dec Kem (10-10) Brooks MD Assad (14-10) Dean dec Warner (17-10) Kerk dec Cass (20-10) 22-10 per your predictions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: 22-10 per your predictions whoops. won't let me edit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted January 11 Ayala dec Hil 3-0 Young dec Des 3-3 Lee dec Eirmen 3-6 Murin dec Bartlett 6-6 Young dec Whoever 9-6 Marinelli maj Berge 13-6 Star dec Kem 13-9 Brooks dec Assad 13-12 Dean dec Warner 13-15 Cass dec Kerk 16-15 Thats my sympathetic to iowa read.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,097 Report post Posted January 11 I don't think Marinelli majors anyone PSU sends out at 165.Ayala seems like a guy who is tough to beat the first time you see his stuff, so he's definitely got a shot against Hildebrandt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorenomore 98 Report post Posted January 11 Ayala dec Hildebrandt (3-0) RBY dec Desanto (3-3) Lee dec Eierman (3-6) - going out on a limb that Lee gets close to a major and this inspires Eierman to up his game for BIG and Nationals Murin dec Bartlett (6-6) Young dec Berge (9-6) Marinelli dec Edsell (12-6) Starrocci dec Kem (12-9) Brooks MD Assad (12-13) Dean dec Warner (12-16) Cass dec Kerk (15-16) Would not be fun without a point deduction from Iowa; final score PSU 16: Iowa 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
