hammerlockthree 2,587 Report post Posted January 17 I was told by someone that cassioppi is all jacked because he lost a bunch of weight, as opposed to doing other things. Anyone have any information to substantiate the claim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,461 Report post Posted January 17 (edited) 1 minute ago, hammerlockthree said: I was told by someone that cassioppi is all jacked because he lost a bunch of weight, as opposed to doing other things. Anyone have any information to substantiate the claim? Bronco knows. Whoops ... wrong coast/region ... Dan, JC ... ? Edited January 17 by ionel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 1,995 Report post Posted January 17 Supposedly he is just as strong, but is now faster. Or at least that is what they were projecting out of the Hawkeye camp over the summer. Someone like Vak will need to provide expertise on this, though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,233 Report post Posted January 17 I heard he wanted to get into acting after wrestling. His NIL agent recommended he drop a little weight and incorporate some acting into his wrestling. 4 GreatWhiteNorth, BerniePragle, HurricaneWrestling2 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 1,113 Report post Posted January 17 all he did was lose 20 lbs. didn’t add any muscle. just ate at a deficit and shed fat. it’s not even a crazy transformation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: all he did was lose 20 lbs. didn’t add any muscle. just ate at a deficit and shed fat. it’s not even a crazy transformation. What was Cass weighing in at last year? He was a real bully with all that size Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 1,113 Report post Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: What was Cass weighing in at last year? He was a real bully with all that size 270ish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted January 17 1 hour ago, uncle bernard said: 270ish I believe he weighed in 237 the night he wrestled gable , that’s a big drop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted January 17 You guys have never been fat guys and it shows. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 1 4 Mr. Poopy butthole, BerniePragle, uncle bernard and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 1,124 Report post Posted January 17 Fat guys finish last... everyone says that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerniePragle 379 Report post Posted January 17 2 hours ago, nhs67 said: Supposedly he is just as strong, but is now faster. Or at least that is what they were projecting out of the Hawkeye camp over the summer. Someone like Vak will need to provide expertise on this, though Faster is good, but probably won't help if you have 250+ lbs of humanity on top of you. And probably won't help as much as another 30 lbs if you're on top. I'm wondering...How many heavyweights have tried to lose weight except if they needed to get under the max? I've always thought the big boys have their own laws of Physics, maybe until Steveson anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powershouse 106 Report post Posted January 17 Poor Cassioppi, he did all that work off season and Gable still increased the gap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted January 17 Poor Cassioppi, he did all that work off season and Gable still increased the gap.At least he's trying stuff. Problem is "the other guy" might be the best heavy ever, and there's just no way to close that talent gap, since Gable is at least as hard a worker.Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,330 Report post Posted January 17 10 hours ago, BerniePragle said: Faster is good, but probably won't help if you have 250+ lbs of humanity on top of you. And probably won't help as much as another 30 lbs if you're on top. I'm wondering...How many heavyweights have tried to lose weight except if they needed to get under the max? I've always thought the big boys have their own laws of Physics, maybe until Steveson anyway. Yeah, it probably didnt' help his chances with Gable... Someone mentioned on the board that Nevills had to lose some weight to get down after playing football for PSU this year. Only about 20 lbs though. I don't know the big boy laws of physics, but I do know that as a 134-142lber that losing 3-4 in a practice was great...then our big guys guys would lose 7-10 a practice. Jerks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,984 Report post Posted January 17 46 minutes ago, VakAttack said: At least he's trying stuff. Problem is "the other guy" might be the best heavy ever, and there's just no way to close that talent gap, since Gable is at least as hard a worker. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk But, there really is "another" other guy in Parris. Let's see if this helps Cass move any better, especially in the dump position that Parris has beat up on him pretty badly with. If he can beat Parris, than I guess it would make it all worth it. However, losing 10-15 percent of his bodyweight inarguably has lost him leverage. I simply can't imagine that he has gained enough strength in the process to offset that leverage. This makes me nervous that he has lost his key advantage over Kerkvliet or even some of the next tier guys like Hillger and Wood. Also, this Hendrickson fellow out of Air Force looks really good. I sincerely hope this "vision quest" of sorts doesn't backfire a bit against guys he has pretty much owned so far... 1 drag it reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,330 Report post Posted January 17 51 minutes ago, MSU158 said: But, there really is "another" other guy in Parris. Let's see if this helps Cass move any better, especially in the dump position that Parris has beat up on him pretty badly with. If he can beat Parris, than I guess it would make it all worth it. However, losing 10-15 percent of his bodyweight inarguably has lost him leverage. I simply can't imagine that he has gained enough strength in the process to offset that leverage. This makes me nervous that he has lost his key advantage over Kerkvliet or even some of the next tier guys like Hillger and Wood. Also, this Hendrickson fellow out of Air Force looks really good. I sincerely hope this "vision quest" of sorts doesn't backfire a bit against guys he has pretty much owned so far... Agree.... Add Shultz to the list as well - He will have a hard time moving him around with his size and upper body greco skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted January 17 58 minutes ago, MSU158 said: But, there really is "another" other guy in Parris. Let's see if this helps Cass move any better, especially in the dump position that Parris has beat up on him pretty badly with. If he can beat Parris, than I guess it would make it all worth it. However, losing 10-15 percent of his bodyweight inarguably has lost him leverage. I simply can't imagine that he has gained enough strength in the process to offset that leverage. This makes me nervous that he has lost his key advantage over Kerkvliet or even some of the next tier guys like Hillger and Wood. Also, this Hendrickson fellow out of Air Force looks really good. I sincerely hope this "vision quest" of sorts doesn't backfire a bit against guys he has pretty much owned so far... No way wood or Hilger ever beats cass, they just aren’t skilled enough on their feet and I don’t see hilger riding or turning cass unless cass drops another 40 pounds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,984 Report post Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said: No way wood or Hilger ever beats cass, they just aren’t skilled enough on their feet and I don’t see hilger riding or turning cass unless cass drops another 40 pounds I didn't say I didn't think he was still better. But, his leverage, especially on top was a big advantage that I don't think should be understated. Take that away and I do think they both could play the heavyweight game and maybe steal a 3-2 type match. On top of that, let's not forget that Hillger can ride and a smaller Cass is more open to the leg ride that Hillger does use. Now, I wouldn't predict either over him. Hell, I still wouldn't predict Schultz or Kerkvliet over him. I am just worried that the body change in hopes of catching Steveson and/or Parris didn't help him with those guys chasing relatively close behind him... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 592 Report post Posted January 17 But, his leverage, especially on top was a big advantage He added rear naked choke to his arsenal to offset the lost leverage his fat provided. So he should be fine there. 2 1 gromit, ironmonkey and wrestlingphish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lunaticfringe 100 Report post Posted January 17 NCAA predictions 1. Gable 2. Parris 3. Schultz 4. Hendrickson 5. Kerkvliet 6. Hillger 7. Cassioppi 8. AJ Nevills (someone unexpected always seems to slide in at 8 because of a upset or draw) I think CASS will struggle at NCAAs against smaller athletic heavy’s. He would be 3-4 if he was still big 1 BerniePragle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted January 17 5 hours ago, VakAttack said: At least he's trying stuff. Problem is "the other guy" might be the best heavy ever, and there's just no way to close that talent gap, since Gable is at least as hard a worker. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk He tried some stuff in the off season but didn't do anything in the actual match. 2 half shot attempts that were immediately countered and a couple of fakes. He looked mentally beat before they shook hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerniePragle 379 Report post Posted January 18 If I were the Brands Brothers, I'd buy him about 3 extra meal plans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted January 18 He tried some stuff in the off season but didn't do anything in the actual match. 2 half shot attempts that were immediately countered and a couple of fakes. He looked mentally beat before they shook hands. I agree. Along with the skill disparity, there appears to be a mental thing also. Hard to see how he'd ever even make it competitive. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lunaticfringe 100 Report post Posted January 18 Losing the weights hasn’t made him any faster either. So you are the same speed, probably not as strong and lose 30 lbs for your opponent to carry. Contrary to what Wes Hand did before his Sr year, he said he put 20 lbs on and closed the gap with Brock a ton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkfan69 4 Report post Posted January 18 9 hours ago, Lunaticfringe said: NCAA predictions 1. Gable 2. Parris 3. Schultz 4. Hendrickson 5. Kerkvliet 6. Hillger 7. Cassioppi 8. AJ Nevills (someone unexpected always seems to slide in at 8 because of a upset or draw) I think CASS will struggle at NCAAs against smaller athletic heavy’s. He would be 3-4 if he was still big This is an absolutely silly prediction 1 Lunaticfringe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
