hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted January 27 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Billyhoyle said: I'm saying he shouldn't be charged with reckless driving even if his reported actions (passing 3 cars at night on a 2 lane highway in a no pass zone leading to a crash) may technically fit the requirement for probable cause of that law. I apologize I didn't sift through the whole topic. Thought that "detail" would have been more prominent. yeah the idea of moral luck makes a lot of sense. Edited January 27 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 1,112 Report post Posted January 27 16 hours ago, Husker_Du said: agree MSU. stupid? bold? careless? yeah. none of us did stupid **** when we were young? our children haven't/don't? and coming from Bronco - the brain dead fan who wanted a full scale congressional hearing on Stanford not putting out enough preseason press releases. whack jobs. wow good luck finding pac 12 dual results now willie 1 1 Mphillips and Husker_Du reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,319 Report post Posted January 27 47 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: wow good luck finding pac 12 dual results now willie They are very easy to find like all the other duals . Wrestlestat, Track wrestling. The Pac 12, believe it or not, has the internet too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,469 Report post Posted January 27 33 minutes ago, Idaho said: They are very easy to find like all the other duals . Wrestlestat, Track wrestling. The Pac 12, believe it or not, has the internet too. what about Stanford’s schedule? Is that out yet? 2 1 dman115, Husker_Du and CoachWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,218 Report post Posted January 27 Given the serious outcome of this incident, a fair resolution would be to throw the book at him: reckless driving ticket. He can plea bargain to driving a defective vehicle, keep his license, pay a minimal fine and enroll in a defensive driving course. Done and done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,966 Report post Posted January 27 I know I come at this from a biased perspective as a defense attorney, but we are way too comfortable as a country with incarcerating people for accidents and way too quick to judge complicated things off simple initial headlines. The truth is we don't know enough about this situation to have informed opinions, even me and other attorneys on this board, as to what should happen legally. 6 2 madcat11, dman115, gromit and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,033 Report post Posted January 27 18 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I know I come at this from a biased perspective as a defense attorney, but we are way too comfortable as a country with incarcerating people for accidents and way too quick to judge complicated things off simple initial headlines. The truth is we don't know enough about this situation to have informed opinions, even me and other attorneys on this board, as to what should happen legally. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dman115 512 Report post Posted January 27 1 hour ago, VakAttack said: I know I come at this from a biased perspective as a defense attorney, but we are way too comfortable as a country with incarcerating people for accidents and way too quick to judge complicated things off simple initial headlines. The truth is we don't know enough about this situation to have informed opinions, even me and other attorneys on this board, as to what should happen legally. Spot on 1 Waxpacks reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 416 Report post Posted January 27 18 hours ago, Billyhoyle said: This seems a bit naive to assume that they will base it entirely on probable cause and input from the other drivers. The DA in NYC or Philadelphia would likely never press charges for something like this, regardless of what anyone else wanted. While maybe the DA in Oklahoma could have a more "law and order" philosophy. Prosecution has always been in part discretionary and based on the moral leanings and even political goals of the prosecutor (and not just following the letter of probable cause and the law). And you know this because.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,654 Report post Posted January 27 4 hours ago, Idaho said: They are very easy to find like all the other duals . Wrestlestat, Track wrestling. The Pac 12, believe it or not, has the internet too. Come on Idaho. That soared over your head brother... 1 Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,319 Report post Posted January 27 56 minutes ago, Mphillips said: Come on Idaho. That soared over your head brother... True! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potentiallydangerous 412 Report post Posted January 27 If they're not going to charge Alec Baldwin for killing someone, they're certainly not going to charge AJ for not killing someone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,442 Report post Posted January 27 1 hour ago, potentiallydangerous said: If they're not going to charge Alec Baldwin for killing someone, they're certainly not going to charge AJ for not killing someone. I think people have cooled on the hot take about a criminal prosecution (or at least I hope they have). It seems like this is a personal injury/damage to property case. He will have some financial liabilities as a result of this. Seems about right if everyone recovers from whatever injuries they have. 1 potentiallydangerous reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,417 Report post Posted January 28 Any updates on AJ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,431 Report post Posted January 28 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Housebuye said: Any updates on AJ? Think it was Wednesday video with J Smith, he was back home in Stillwater but sore. Sounds like good news that released from the hospital. Edited January 28 by ionel 2 Housebuye and HurricaneWrestling2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted January 28 I'm honestly a little concerned he hasn't taken to social media...maybe the crash put a scar on his hairline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites