Idaho 1,397 Report post Posted February 24 https://www.nj.com/rutgers/2022/02/ncaa-wrestling-championships-2022-allocations-big-ten-big-12-acc-lead-way.html 1 Creek chub reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,638 Report post Posted February 24 (edited) CONFERENCE 125 133 141 149 157 165 174 184 197 285 TOTAL Atlantic Coast Conference 3 5 4 4 5 3 4 5 3 3 39 Big 12 Conference 6 6 7 4 6 4 8 4 7 6 58 Big Ten Conference 10 10 7 7 7 7 8 12 11 9 88 Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association 4 2 4 4 5 7 4 3 5 4 42 Mid-American Conference 1 1 3 5 2 3 2 2 1 2 22 Pacific-12 Conference 3 3 2 3 2 3 2 2 1 2 23 Southern Conference 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 15 Pre-Allocations 29 29 28 29 28 29 29 29 29 28 287 At-Large 4 4 5 4 5 4 4 4 4 5 43 Edited February 24 by Wrestleknownothing 1 Elevator reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,397 Report post Posted February 24 Pac 12 got a couple more than they usually get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vincevango 13 Report post Posted February 24 (edited) "The NCAA Division I Wrestling Committee did determine it will not consider for championship selections, including conference pre-allocations, any results from extra matches that ended with injury defaults where the wrestlers did not wrestle". Edited February 24 by vincevango 9 1 1 TBar1977, Wrestleknownothing, flyingcement and 8 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,638 Report post Posted February 24 125 RPI is a bit of a mess. Five of the top eight wrestlers in the coaches rank do not have enough matches (15) to qualify for an RPI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKHUNTER 316 Report post Posted February 24 so the NCAA eliminated the hvy weight class? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 592 Report post Posted February 24 41 minutes ago, vincevango said: "The NCAA Division I Wrestling Committee did determine it will not consider for championship selections, including conference pre-allocations, any results from extra matches that ended with injury defaults where the wrestlers did not wrestle". Such and easy and obvious solution to that BS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creek chub 220 Report post Posted February 24 I’m not good at math but it looks like the ACC earned more bids per capita (if that’s the right term) than all the other conferences Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,397 Report post Posted February 24 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: 125 RPI is a bit of a mess. Five of the top eight wrestlers in the coaches rank do not have enough matches (15) to qualify for an RPI. Do they get to qualify with their conference matches? If so there may be guys who will take spots because they did not earn one. Edited February 24 by Idaho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 993 Report post Posted February 24 https://wrestlingbypirate.wordpress.com/2022/02/24/2022-allocations-and-who-earned-them/ 5 potentiallydangerous, Mphillips, Show_Me and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 550 Report post Posted February 24 1 hour ago, vincevango said: "The NCAA Division I Wrestling Committee did determine it will not consider for championship selections, including conference pre-allocations, any results from extra matches that ended with injury defaults where the wrestlers did not wrestle". So glorious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 526 Report post Posted February 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SetonHallPirate said: https://wrestlingbypirate.wordpress.com/2022/02/24/2022-allocations-and-who-earned-them/ NCAA didn't link to CR like they usually do in the pre-allocation announcement. Link? Never mind. I was looking at the NJ.com article. NCAA link with CR is here. Did Hines (Lehigh) and Deck (Army) not get submitted at their weight or are they somehow not eligible? Edited February 24 by ugarte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,638 Report post Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Idaho said: Do they get to qualify with their conference matches? If so there may be guys who will take spots because they did not earn one. The allocations are based on 3 criteria. They need to have at least two of the following three to get an allocation for their conference: 70% D1 winning percentage (need 8 matches to calculate a winning percentage, top 30 coaches rank, top 30 RPI (need 15 matches for an RPI). Micic is a good example of how it works. He had only 10 matches, so no RPI. And his winning percentage was only 60% (6-4). So even though he is 21st in the coaches rank, he does not get the B1G an allocation at 141 because he fails on 2 of 3 criteria. 1 Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKHUNTER 316 Report post Posted February 24 I should know this.......... (old age?.......nawwww) when do big 10 seeds get announced? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 993 Report post Posted February 24 1 minute ago, ugarte said: NCAA didn't link to CR like they usually do in the pre-allocation announcement. Link? Did Hines (Lehigh) and Deck (Army) not get submitted at their weight or are they somehow not eligible? CR is part of the release the NCAA put out. Hines didn't have the winning percentage, and didn't have enough matches for the RPI because his 15th match was disallowed. As far as Deck, he didn't have a good enough CR or RPI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,037 Report post Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, Creek chub said: I’m not good at math but it looks like the ACC earned more bids per capita (if that’s the right term) than all the other conferences ACC 39/60=65% Big12 58/120=48.33% Big10 88/140=62.86% EIWA 42/170=24.71% MAC 22/130=16.92% Pac12 23/60=38.33% Southern 15/90=16.67% 2 Wrestleknownothing and Creek chub reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 993 Report post Posted February 24 SoCon is actually 15/80, for 18.75% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 526 Report post Posted February 24 I assume that wrestlestat doesn't have an accurate RPI list. Otherwise why wouldn't Key have earned a slot at 184? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,037 Report post Posted February 24 (edited) 22 minutes ago, SetonHallPirate said: SoCon is actually 15/80, for 18.75% When I looked at their conference, the site listed 9 teams, is one still ineligible for the post-season? Appalachian State6-01.0003-03-0W69-2.8184-25-00-0W9Campbell6-1.8576-00-1L111-5.6887-11-43-0L1Chattanooga6-2.7503-13-1W39-10.4744-15-20-7W4Gardner-Webb5-2.7141-14-1W37-7.5003-44-30-0W2The Citadel4-3.5713-11-2W26-5.5455-11-30-1W2VMI3-6.3332-20-4L44-10.2862-41-51-1L4Davidson2-5.2860-32-2L13-10.2311-72-30-0L1Bellarmine1-7.1250-41-3L22-15.1181-51-40-6L2Presbyterian0-5.0000-10-4L51-6.1431-20-40-0L5 Edited February 24 by MSU158 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
royalfan 10 Report post Posted February 24 Can someone refresh my memory if the Rpi and coaches rankings are redone once more after qualifying tourneys? I believe they are but can’t quite recall. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,099 Report post Posted February 24 26 minutes ago, royalfan said: Can someone refresh my memory if the Rpi and coaches rankings are redone once more after qualifying tourneys? I believe they are but can’t quite recall. Thanks Yes to RPI, for sure. Not sure on coaches off the top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 993 Report post Posted February 24 44 minutes ago, MSU158 said: When I looked at their conference, the site listed 9 teams, is one still ineligible for the post-season? Appalachian State6-01.0003-03-0W69-2.8184-25-00-0W9Campbell6-1.8576-00-1L111-5.6887-11-43-0L1Chattanooga6-2.7503-13-1W39-10.4744-15-20-7W4Gardner-Webb5-2.7141-14-1W37-7.5003-44-30-0W2The Citadel4-3.5713-11-2W26-5.5455-11-30-1W2VMI3-6.3332-20-4L44-10.2862-41-51-1L4Davidson2-5.2860-32-2L13-10.2311-72-30-0L1Bellarmine1-7.1250-41-3L22-15.1181-51-40-6L2Presbyterian0-5.0000-10-4L51-6.1431-20-40-0L5 Bellarmine is until 2024-25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 923 Report post Posted February 24 1 hour ago, ugarte said: I assume that wrestlestat doesn't have an accurate RPI list. Otherwise why wouldn't Key have earned a slot at 184? there isn't much in wrestlestat that is accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 923 Report post Posted February 24 2 hours ago, AKHUNTER said: so the NCAA eliminated the hvy weight class? The NCAA has never had a "Heavyweight" class. The weight class for the heaviest wrestlers was called "Unlimited" until 1986. It became 275 from 1987-1998, and then 285 from 1999 to present. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 993 Report post Posted February 24 38 minutes ago, lu_alum said: The NCAA has never had a "Heavyweight" class. The weight class for the heaviest wrestlers was called "Unlimited" until 1986. It became 275 from 1987-1998, and then 285 from 1999 to present. It’s officially been called heavyweight, primarily because it’s the only weight that has a minimum weight (183 lbs.), for as long as I can remember. 1 Wrestleknownothing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
