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NCAA Qualifiers - by state and by high school

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19 hours ago, flyingcement said:
Illinois New Jersey Ohio Pennsylvania New York Iowa Michigan
Noah Surtin Nick Suriano Dylan Shawver (Forfeit) Vito Arujau Drake Ayala Devin Schroeder
Michael McGee Chris Cannon Lucas Byrd Austin DeSanto (Forfeit) Kyle Biscoglia RayVon Foley
Real Woods Sebastian Rivera Allan Hart Cole Matthews (Forfeit) (Forfeit) Ian Parker
Austin Gomez Mike Van Brill Tariq Wilson Sammy Sasso Yianni Diakomihalis MiMi  
          lschlag (Forfeit)
Dean Hamiti Shane Griffith Alex Marinelli Jake Wentzel Evan Barczak Austin Yant Cameron Amine
Adam Kemp Mekhi Lewis Benjamin Pasiuk Carter Starocci Jacob Nolan Cade DeVos Logan Massa
Abe Assad John Poznanski Kaleb Romero Trent Hidlay Jonathan Loew Marcus Coleman Myles Amine
Eric Schultz Jacob Cardenas Ben Smith Nino Bonaccorsi Lou Deprez Tanner Sloan Max Dean
Tony Cassioppi Lewis Fernades Matt Stencel Jordan W Sam Schuyler Tyrell Gordon Trent Hillger

Unless I made a mistake, Minnesota has nine also.  Missing a 149.

 

  

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4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

 

Hometown tells you what state the guys are actually from.  I don't know how much counting Blair as NJ tells us, since a lot of their guys are not actually from NJ.

It's really only Blair and Wyoming Seminary that I can think of that fall into this category, where they are boarding schools that do not compete in their respective state's tournament.

It sounds like something in the state totals got your panties in a bunch.  This isn't a hometown analysis (didn't think we'd need to go over that again).  

Have you not heard of the National Prep Championship?  There are lots of other schools that fit this description.  

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1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

It sounds like something in the state totals got your panties in a bunch.  This isn't a hometown analysis (didn't think we'd need to go over that again).  

Have you not heard of the National Prep Championship?  There are lots of other schools that fit this description.  

I’m from NJ.  I’d love it if Blair “counted” for NJ, but in reality it should only count the guys that are actually from NJ.

What other boarding schools have NQ’s?

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Just now, 1032004 said:

I’m from NJ.  I’d love it if Blair “counted” for NJ, but in reality it should only count the guys that are actually from NJ.

What other boarding schools have NQ’s?

I'm pretty sure if you are interested in that kind of data that @JasonBryant produces data related to hometowns which he has made available through a link online.  I believe he charges 20 bucks which is not that bad considering the work that goes into it. 

 

Belmont Hill is another school in the Prep circuit and they produced Philip Conigliario (Harvard 165 lbs)

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8 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I'm pretty sure if you are interested in that kind of data that @JasonBryant produces data related to hometowns which he has made available through a link online.  I believe he charges 20 bucks which is not that bad considering the work that goes into it. 

 

Belmont Hill is another school in the Prep circuit and they produced Philip Conigliario (Harvard 165 lbs)

Again I love the work you did here.

And sorry I should have said Blair and Wyoming Seminary were the only ones I could think of that are really relevant in wrestling.

Looking at the National Prep results, a lot of the schools are not boarding schools. Of the top 10 this year, the only others were Western Reserve Academy. Northfield Mt Hermon, and the Baylor School (none of which I had really heard of before).  Even Belmont Hill’s Wikipedia says most students are day students and Conigliaro lists his hometown as 20 miles away.

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2 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

I believe Ohio has open enrollment, so nothing to pretend.

And just to be sure people understand, St Paris is the name of the town.

No it doesn’t lol. Even if that’s changed it wasn’t the rule when Marinelli lived an hour away 

And that’s part of the point. People I know who are very knowledgeable and from the area have already told me St Paris is the town name. That actually was the issue one of them had. A public school doing private school things. 

In fact the issue several people I knew had wasn’t even that Graham “acquired” talent. It was that they pretended to be the “ah shucks home grown” team, even after everyone knew they were pulling kids from over an hour away. 
The coach I talked to even said you could make an argument that St Ed’s had become much more of a “develop your own kids” rather than “acquire” them than Graham was.

 

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1 hour ago, jp157 said:

No it doesn’t lol. Even if that’s changed it wasn’t the rule when Marinelli lived an hour away 

And that’s part of the point. People I know who are very knowledgeable and from the area have already told me St Paris is the town name. That actually was the issue one of them had. A public school doing private school things. 

In fact the issue several people I knew had wasn’t even that Graham “acquired” talent. It was that they pretended to be the “ah shucks home grown” team, even after everyone knew they were pulling kids from over an hour away. 
The coach I talked to even said you could make an argument that St Ed’s had become much more of a “develop your own kids” rather than “acquire” them than Graham was.

 

You might want to check that. All the bylaws say is you have to be enrolled full-time in the school. And that you can only transfer to the school where you live. And that would only make sense if you could enroll away from home.

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On 3/8/2022 at 7:10 PM, flyingcement said:

Based on the location of the high school each qualifier graduated from (if applicable):

 

Pennsylvania 42
New Jersey 33
Illinois 33
Ohio 22
Michigan 17
California 17
New York 16
Minnesota 14
Iowa 13
Indiana 11
Colorado 11
Oklahoma 9
Florida 9
Virginia 8
Missouri 8
Wisconsin 7
Kansas 7
Georgia 7
North Carolina 5
Maryland 4
West Virginia 3
Washington 3
Arizona 3
North Dakota 3
Montana 3
Massachusetts 3
Tennessee 2
Utah 2
Nebraska 2
Connecticut 2
Alaska 2
Wyoming 1
South Carolina 1
Oregon 1
New Hampshire 1
N/A (Cuba) 1
Kentucky 1
Idaho 1
Hawaii 1
Alabama 1

 

High schools with more than one qualifier:

Blair Academy 7
Bergen Catholic 6
St. Edward 3
Nazareth 3
Montini Catholic 3
Detroit Central Catholic 3
Wyoming Seminary 2
Willmar 2
West Fargo 2
Tuttle 2
Staley 2
St. John Bosco 2
St. John 2
Southeast Polk 2
South Park 2
Pueblo County 2
Parkersburg South 2
Olentangy LIberty 2
Oak Park-River Forest 2
Mount Carmel 2
Mifflin County 2
Lake Highland 2
Hilton 2
Heritage Hall 2
Glenbard North 2
Fort Dodge 2
Father Tolton 2
Elyria 2
Danbury 2
Christian Brothers 2
Chesterton 2
Cherry Creek 2
Castle View 2
Calvary Chapel 2
Boyertown 2
Archer 2
Anoka 2

Excellent work, tip of the cap to you, good human.

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11 minutes ago, gimpeltf said:

You might want to check that. All the bylaws say is you have to be enrolled full-time in the school. And that you can only transfer to the school where you live. And that would only make sense if you could enroll away from home.

Each state has a unique set of rules as far as I understand (to further your comment).  For example, Delaware is a "choice" state meaning that students can attend any school they want - regardless of where they live (provided they are academically qualified)  I guess that would also play into it and it gets quite complicated trying to keep track across states

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1 hour ago, gimpeltf said:

You might want to check that. All the bylaws say is you have to be enrolled full-time in the school. And that you can only transfer to the school where you live. And that would only make sense if you could enroll away from home.

I will but I also very much trust the person I talked to 

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1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

Each state has a unique set of rules as far as I understand (to further your comment).  For example, Delaware is a "choice" state meaning that students can attend any school they want - regardless of where they live (provided they are academically qualified)  I guess that would also play into it and it gets quite complicated trying to keep track across states

For sure. I didn't dig into the out of state stuff. There was something there implying some possibilities but didn't look further.

And to be clear, I'm not clear on this. Just know I've heard it termed something like this in the past.

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For the Iowans.....

State Qualifiers Population Qualifiers / 1M Pop
Iowa 13 3,174,426 4.10
North Dakota 3 774,008 3.88
New Jersey 33 8,870,685 3.72
Pennsylvania 42 12,805,190 3.28
Alaska 2 720,763 2.77
Montana 3 1,093,117 2.74
Illinois 33 12,518,071 2.64
Minnesota 14 5,739,781 2.44
Kansas 7 2,919,179 2.40
Oklahoma 9 4,007,179 2.25
Ohio 22 11,727,377 1.88
Colorado 11 5,961,083 1.85
Wyoming 1 582,233 1.72
West Virginia 3 1,755,715 1.71
Michigan 17 9,995,212 1.70
Indiana 11 6,842,385 1.61
Missouri 8 6,184,843 1.29
Wisconsin 7 5,867,518 1.19
Nebraska 2 1,960,790 1.02
Virginia 8 8,638,218 0.93
New York 16 19,223,191 0.83
New Hampshire 1 1,378,449 0.73
Hawaii 1 1,401,709 0.71
Maryland 4 6,075,314 0.66
Georgia 7 10,936,299 0.64
Utah 2 3,363,182 0.59
Connecticut 2 3,546,588 0.56
Idaho 1 1,896,652 0.53
North Carolina 5 10,807,491 0.46
Massachusetts 3 6,922,107 0.43
California 17 39,664,128 0.43
Florida 9 22,177,997 0.41
Arizona 3 7,640,796 0.39
Washington 3 7,887,965 0.38
Tennessee 2 7,001,803 0.29
Oregon 1 4,325,290 0.23
Kentucky 1 4,487,233 0.22
Alabama 1 4,949,697 0.20
South Carolina 1 5,342,388 0.19
Cuba 1 11,315,021 0.09
Vermont 0 622,882 0.00
District of Columbia 0 718,355 0.00
South Dakota 0 902,542 0.00
Delaware 0 998,619 0.00
Rhode Island 0 1,062,583 0.00
Maine 0 1,359,677 0.00
New Mexico 0 2,109,093 0.00
Mississippi 0 2,961,536 0.00
Arkansas 0 3,042,017 0.00
Puerto Rico 0 3,194,714 0.00
Nevada 0 3,238,601 0.00
Louisiana 0 4,616,106 0.00
Texas 0 30,097,526 0.00

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2 minutes ago, Icemeister said:

For the Iowans.....

State Qualifiers Population Qualifiers / 1M Pop
Iowa 13 3,174,426 4.10
North Dakota 3 774,008 3.88
New Jersey 33 8,870,685 3.72
Pennsylvania 42 12,805,190 3.28
Alaska 2 720,763 2.77
Montana 3 1,093,117 2.74
Illinois 33 12,518,071 2.64
Minnesota 14 5,739,781 2.44
Kansas 7 2,919,179 2.40
Oklahoma 9 4,007,179 2.25
Ohio 22 11,727,377 1.88
Colorado 11 5,961,083 1.85
Wyoming 1 582,233 1.72
West Virginia 3 1,755,715 1.71
Michigan 17 9,995,212 1.70
Indiana 11 6,842,385 1.61
Missouri 8 6,184,843 1.29
Wisconsin 7 5,867,518 1.19
Nebraska 2 1,960,790 1.02
Virginia 8 8,638,218 0.93
New York 16 19,223,191 0.83
New Hampshire 1 1,378,449 0.73
Hawaii 1 1,401,709 0.71
Maryland 4 6,075,314 0.66
Georgia 7 10,936,299 0.64
Utah 2 3,363,182 0.59
Connecticut 2 3,546,588 0.56
Idaho 1 1,896,652 0.53
North Carolina 5 10,807,491 0.46
Massachusetts 3 6,922,107 0.43
California 17 39,664,128 0.43
Florida 9 22,177,997 0.41
Arizona 3 7,640,796 0.39
Washington 3 7,887,965 0.38
Tennessee 2 7,001,803 0.29
Oregon 1 4,325,290 0.23
Kentucky 1 4,487,233 0.22
Alabama 1 4,949,697 0.20
South Carolina 1 5,342,388 0.19
Cuba 1 11,315,021 0.09
Vermont 0 622,882 0.00
District of Columbia 0 718,355 0.00
South Dakota 0 902,542 0.00
Delaware 0 998,619 0.00
Rhode Island 0 1,062,583 0.00
Maine 0 1,359,677 0.00
New Mexico 0 2,109,093 0.00
Mississippi 0 2,961,536 0.00
Arkansas 0 3,042,017 0.00
Puerto Rico 0 3,194,714 0.00
Nevada 0 3,238,601 0.00
Louisiana 0 4,616,106 0.00
Texas 0 30,097,526 0.00

I had a feeling that Alaska was just nipping at Pennsylvania heels.  Pretty cool to see though.  Nice work by North Dakota as second place 

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I applied a simple formula to weight the outcome based on seeds.  34-x in which X is the wrestler's seed gives us the amount of points they earn in the below table. These are the top ten schools in terms of seeding points (according to my formula stated already) 

High School NAME SUM of Seed Points
Blair Acadamy Trevor Mastrogiovanni 27
  Michael Colaiocco 25
  Chris Cannon 24
  Julian Ramirez 21
  Nick Incontrera 17
  Ryan Miller 12
  Zachary Sherman 2
Blair Acadamy Total   128
Bergen Catholic Nick Suriano 33
  Shane Griffith 29
  Chris Foca 20
  Jacob Cardenas 15
  Joseph Zargo 7
  Dylan Cedeno 1
Bergen Catholic Total   105
Montini Catholic Real Woods 30
  Dylan Ragusin 28
  Will Lewan 26
Montini Catholic Total   84
St. Edward Allan Hart 25
  Matt Kazimir 23
  Bryce Andonian 23
St. Edward Total   71
Detroit Central Catholic Myles Amine 33
  Cameron Amine 28
  Josh Edmond 8
Detroit Central Catholic Total   69
Mifflin County Trent Hidlay 31
  Hayden Hidlay 30
Mifflin County Total   61
Hilton Yianni Diakomihalis 33
  Lou Deprez 26
Hilton Total   59
St. John Logan Massa 31
  Ian Parker 21
St. John Total   52
Glenbard North Austin Gomez 31
  Abe Assad 16
Glenbard North Total   47
Staley Rocky Elam 27
  Zach Elam 18

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I'm sure you guys are getting tired of this by now, but I'm adding another couple of columns which show: 1) number of years since high school graduation and 2) Official "Class" (freshman, sophomore, etc)  And I am looking forward to calling out all of the true freshman who managed to make the tournament

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1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

I'm sure you guys are getting tired of this by now, but I'm adding another couple of columns which show: 1) number of years since high school graduation and 2) Official "Class" (freshman, sophomore, etc)  And I am looking forward to calling out all of the true freshman who managed to make the tournament

Enough tabulating. Nobody cares about high school wrestling.

NCAA seeds just came out. Run your predictions for team scores! I’m curious to see what your system predicts. 

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On 3/8/2022 at 8:41 PM, klehner said:

New York also has nine qualifiers (no 141).  Includes Vito, Lajoie, Yianni, Richard, Loew, Deprez, etc.

Lajoie was a  3X Michigan State champ. Not from NY.

You can count Teemer.

Edited by DanGerMan

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On 3/8/2022 at 11:53 PM, flyingcement said:

thank you sir.  I copied and pasted the list of qualifiers from today's announcement about the at-large bids.  I added columns for weight, high school, and state which were the only ones I entered manually.  Probably took about an hour and a half but I grind through these things pretty quickly and enjoy it.  It will be easier to update in the future with hopefully a good amount of names that carry over from year to year.  The first time is most painful in terms of data entry

Thank you for the effort. Noticed that AJ Burkhart of Lehigh is listed as a New Yorker. He did wrestle in NY at Waverly initially then went across the border into PA to wrestle in Athens to finish up his HS years.

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16  always towards top, Kind of in my opinion underrated as in Highschool ratings your lucky see 5 kids ranked in all the top 20 of all weight?

( that's a yearly situation) yet they produce getting kids to the big show

Homer writing Homer stuff!

LOL

 

 

 

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On 3/8/2022 at 6:10 PM, flyingcement said:

Based on the location of the high school each qualifier graduated from (if applicable):

 


High schools with more than one qualifier:

Blair Academy 7
Bergen Catholic 6
St. Edward 3
Nazareth 3
Montini Catholic 3
Detroit Central Catholic 3
Wyoming Seminary 2
Willmar 2
West Fargo 2
Tuttle 2
Staley 2
St. John Bosco 2
St. John 2
Southeast Polk 2
South Park 2
Pueblo County 2
Parkersburg South 2
Olentangy LIberty 2
Oak Park-River Forest 2
Mount Carmel 2
Mifflin County 2
Lake Highland 2
Hilton 2
Heritage Hall 2
Glenbard North 2
Fort Dodge 2
Father Tolton 2
Elyria 2
Danbury 2
Christian Brothers 2
Chesterton 2
Cherry Creek 2
Castle View 2
Calvary Chapel 2
Boyertown 2
Archer 2
Anoka 2

Great job putting this together. 

Simley High School, MN also has two qualifiers Jake Gliva 133 and Greg Kerkvliet Hwt.

The town where the school is located is Inver Grove Heights, MN, but the school is Simley HS.

 

Edited by MNRodent

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19 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

I believe Ohio has open enrollment, so nothing to pretend.

And just to be sure people understand, St Paris is the name of the town.

I didn't read down this far and just commented and should have waited, I was also going to point out that it is a public school and yes open enrollment.  

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