With Seeds Coming out Tonight...

[Wrestleknownothing 1,651]

I thought I would share how the Big 3 title contenders this year have performed relative to their seed for the past ten years.

 

The upper graph shows what the average seed is for each team for each of the last ten years. As a reminder, for the years where seeds ended at 8 (2011 - 2012) or 12 (2013 - 2018) I use the mid-point of the unseeded position for all unseeded wrestlers (normalized seed).

The lower graph is the difference between the normalized seed and the finish.

Observations:

• Strong correlation between seed and deviation (duh)
• 2017 was a tough year for Michigan
• 2019 was a strong tourney for Iowa.
• It is not your imagination, PSU performs the best at NCAAs relative to their seed.

Removing the year granularity and looking at it for the ten years as a group.

 

 

 

Edited March 9 by Wrestleknownothing

[MagnetBack 65]

Great info! Thanks for sharing!

[unbiased 516]

How long have bars and graphs been around? It seems outdated. 

[ionel 2,739]

Good stuff!  It'd be interesting to see top 3 conferences places translated to seeds to final NCAA placement.  We know you can whip this out in 5 minutes or less.  :)

[Wrestleknownothing 1,651]

9 minutes ago, unbiased said:

How long have bars and graphs been around? It seems outdated. 

https://www.anychart.com/blog/2015/06/02/first-bar-chart-in-history/

I am open to suggestions

[unbiased 516]

4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

https://www.anychart.com/blog/2015/06/02/first-bar-chart-in-history/

I am open to suggestions

Any of these will work.

 

Synonyms for Bar graph:

• n. • coordinate, axis, design, curve. •Other relevant words: (noun) bar chart, chart.
• Other synonyms: • graphically, visual, organogram, map, flow chart, diagram, organigram, Gantt chart, line graph, spreadsheet, floor plan, cross-section, Venn Diagram, flow sheet, y-axis, x-axis, tabular,

[unbiased 516]

I'm partial to Gantt chart or Venn Diagram but please stay away from flow chart, I just don't like the name.

[Wrestleknownothing 1,651]

5 minutes ago, unbiased said:

I'm partial to Gantt chart or Venn Diagram but please stay away from flow chart, I just don't like the name.

Organogram it is.

[Wrestleknownothing 1,651]

46 minutes ago, ionel said:

Good stuff!  It'd be interesting to see top 3 conferences places translated to seeds to final NCAA placement.  We know you can whip this out in 5 minutes or less.  :)

Sounds like a betting opportunity. Loser has to type all that in. Wait, that makes me and @BerniePragle losers for typing in the brackets. That can't be right. Never mind.

[BerniePragle 441]

4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I thought I would share how the Big 3 title contenders this year have performed relative to their seed for the past ten years.

 

The upper graph shows what the average seed is for each team for each of the last ten years. As a reminder, for the years where seeds ended at 8 (2011 - 2012) or 12 (2013 - 2018) I use the mid-point of the unseeded position for all unseeded wrestlers (normalized seed).

The lower graph is the difference between the normalized seed and the finish.

Observations:

• Strong correlation between seed and deviation (duh)
• 2017 was a tough year for Michigan
• 2019 was a strong tourney for Iowa.
• It is not your imagination, PSU performs the best at NCAAs relative to their seed.

Removing the year granularity and looking at it for the ten years as a group.

 

 

 

So, for the ten years it looks like PSU outperforms Iowa by a little less than one (place vs seed).  At first, I thought that was small potatoes, but then I realized... Small potatoes if you're seeded 16, not small potatoes if you're seeded 1.  They may want to hire you in Vegas.