Ragu 75 Report post Posted March 19 Reviews are taking longer than ever, often producing a bad call, constant no calls, every ref has a different definition of back swipes, complete nonsense all-around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImNotSmart 3 Report post Posted March 19 In my almost 40 years of watching this I think it’s the worst. There have just been some HUGE bad calls that cost guys, example Chad red. 1 Fletcher reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragu 75 Report post Posted March 19 I'm going to have to take things into my own hands Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrap Iron 12 Report post Posted March 19 Problem is: No Missouri refs in this tourney. Some of the best guys in the nation not represented Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,175 Report post Posted March 19 #freeIanMilller alone makes that one the worst, imoSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 D3UC157 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,428 Report post Posted March 19 10 minutes ago, ImNotSmart said: In my almost 40 years of watching this I think it’s the worst. There have just been some HUGE bad calls that cost guys, example Chad red. Chad red won a match off of bad stall calls in his favor and lost based on a stall call that was justifiable. He is not a good example of a victim of bad officiating this weekend. 1 Schuteandscore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,428 Report post Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, GoNotQuietly said: #freeIanMilller alone makes that one the worst, imo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Facts. Black eye on the sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,454 Report post Posted March 19 (edited) I mean the reviews taking forever technically aren’t the ref’s fault (at least the ones you can see) right? Edited March 19 by 1032004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,503 Report post Posted March 19 Sounds like a bunch of you guys will be signing up at your local ref clinic to start the certification process first thing Monday. I can't wait to see you guys be the solution. 2 1 RAJ72, Schuteandscore and Fletcher reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerniePragle 382 Report post Posted March 19 21 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Sounds like a bunch of you guys will be signing up at your local ref clinic to start the certification process first thing Monday. I can't wait to see you guys be the solution. Exactly. I think the technology has led to micro-criticism of the refs. We all have nearly as good a view as the refs, maybe sometimes better. The review time is a problem, not the fault of the refs though. I can't find fault with the refs during the match. 1 RAJ72 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,503 Report post Posted March 19 Refereeing. You must start out perfect, and improve from there. 1 RAJ72 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@Peggy4asu 0 Report post Posted March 19 As an ASU fan I have watched a lot of Pac 12 refs and the refs in this tournament have been a serious upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,733 Report post Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, BerniePragle said: I can't find fault with the refs during the match. Nor do I look for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simple 297 Report post Posted March 19 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Sounds like a bunch of you guys will be signing up at your local ref clinic to start the certification process first thing Monday. I can't wait to see you guys be the solution. Lol Plumber screws up your plumbing? Go to trade school and do it yourself. What a stupid argument. They’re paid to do a job. Edited March 19 by simple 1 ImNotSmart reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragu 75 Report post Posted March 19 Refereeing is the most thankless job there is 2 Fletcher and TexRef reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerseychas 8 Report post Posted March 19 I think it's as much that wrestling styles have changed a lot over the past 10 years, and the refs are caught in no-mans-land sometimes. I watched an old video of Brands wrestling in college the other day and all you would see is shoot, shoot, shoot. Now we have edge wrestling, fake shots, and great skills at defensive point saving (hanging onto feet and lets, etc). Some of this leaves refs in no-win situations. 3 BerniePragle, Fletcher and Ish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simple 297 Report post Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, Ragu said: Refereeing is the most thankless job there is Even if that were true, whats your point? It’s a job they can quit at anytime. A choice they made. No one forced them to become refs. They’re just like anyone else who’s bad at their job. A good ref should go unnoticed. If they want to be praised and noticed, they should go do something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,503 Report post Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, simple said: Even if that were true, whats your point? It’s a job they can quit at anytime. A choice they made. No one forced them to become refs. They’re just like anyone else who’s bad at their job. A good ref should go unnoticed. If they want to be praised and noticed, they should go do something else. You sound like you yell at clouds too. 1 1 RAJ72 and Schuteandscore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schuteandscore 168 Report post Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Perry said: Chad red won a match off of bad stall calls in his favor and lost based on a stall call that was justifiable. He is not a good example of a victim of bad officiating this weekend. Agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImNotSmart 3 Report post Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Perry said: Chad red won a match off of bad stall calls in his favor and lost based on a stall call that was justifiable. He is not a good example of a victim of bad officiating this weekend. That stall call against him wasn’t even close to justifiable. And him winning based off of bad stall calls just proves my point not yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BerniePragle 382 Report post Posted March 19 I forgot. The Dean/Deprez call sucked. Of course, that wasn't the refs... That came from "higher up". 1 Dartsingle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,428 Report post Posted March 19 7 minutes ago, ImNotSmart said: That stall call against him wasn’t even close to justifiable. And him winning based off of bad stall calls just proves my point not yours. He backed straight out of bounds and didn't pretend to circle. Play with fire, get burned. I do concede there have been some bad calls, but not even close to a worst ever scenario overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,790 Report post Posted March 19 44 minutes ago, simple said: Lol Plumber screws up your plumbing? Go to trade school and do it yourself. What a stupid argument. They’re paid to do a job. Stupid analogy. You can do your own plumbing. If your plumber screws up they can comeback and fix it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schuteandscore 168 Report post Posted March 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ImNotSmart said: That stall call against him wasn’t even close to justifiable. And him winning based off of bad stall calls just proves my point not yours. That call was the absolute correct call. The problem is some officials aren’t courageous enough to make it consistently. That ref did Edited March 19 by Schuteandscore * 2 Perry and BLT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D3UC157 163 Report post Posted March 19 31 minutes ago, BigTenFanboy said: Stupid analogy. You can do your own plumbing. If your plumber screws up they can comeback and fix it. Wouldn’t them coming back to fix the problem be the Review?… but you still end up with a leak 1 simple reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites