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The lack of importance of the team scoring again put on front Street today

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4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Correct.  Cael wins team titles largely by winning individual titles. But he doesn’t claim to win the team title when he really didn’t (don’t think you did, but BTF did).

I never said psu won the 2021 team title. I said individual titles mean more.

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18 hours ago, Show_Me said:

3 days in March

This.  I am open to any changes (including post season) that remedies this worsening  “regular season product”.

Good title for a wrestling documentary.

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I really think the silliest team title was Iowa in 2021. It not only was silly, but it was downright detrimental to the sport of wrestling that year. Ohio States 2015 title was the same way.

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I never said psu won the 2021 team title. I said individual titles mean more.
We know. No matter how many times Cael Sanderson says otherwise, you'll be right there to tell us what he secretly means.

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3 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

Penn State duplicated a rare feat in college wrestling this year with 3 Undefeated NCAA Champions. 

Only the 2012 Penn State team had previously accomplished this very rare team feat. 

Nah ... OSU has done it at least a couple times, maybe even 4x Ud.

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3 hours ago, ionel said:

Nah ... OSU has done it at least a couple times, maybe even 4x Ud.

I should know better than to accept something posted elsewhere as fact as actually being true.

Out of curiosity, what years did OSU have 3 unbeaten ncaa champs? 

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2 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

Out of curiosity, what years did OSU have 3 unbeaten ncaa champs? 

OU was the last team to do it (other than PSU).  I think that was 1969.  OSU might have done it a few years before in 1965.

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Yeah but college wrestling only started in 2010

Nah ... its a new era ... nothing happened before Covid ... only post Covid counts now ... PSU is the only team to win.

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2 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

I should know better than to accept something posted elsewhere as fact as actually being true.

Out of curiosity, what years did OSU have 3 unbeaten ncaa champs? 

I only searched enough to find 2, think it was 65 & 42 (would need to recheck) but there may have been others.

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Teams with 3 undefeated national champions.  PSU has done it twice.  OU has done it once.  OSU has done it 11 times and even had 4 undefeated champs one season.  UNI has done it at least twice.

2022 PSU: Roman Bravo-Young (22-0), Nick Lee (22-0), Carter Starocci (23-0)

2012 PSU: Frank Molinaro (33-0), David Taylor (32-0), Ed Ruth (31-0)

1969 OU: David McGuire (21-0), Mike Grant (22-0), Cleo McGlory (21-0)

1965 OSU: Tadaaki Hatta (12-0), Yojiro Uetake (13-0), Jack Brisco (18-0)

1954 OSU: Myron Roderick (11-0), Ned Blass (12-0), Gene Nicks (10-0)

1950 UNI: Keith Young (14-0), Bill Nelson (14-0), Bill Smith (14-0)

1949 UNI: Keith Young (13-0), Bill Nelson (14-0), Bill Smith (11-0)

1946 UNI?: Cecil Mott (??), Gerry Leeman (8-0), Bill Koll (9-0)

1942 OSU: David Arndt (9-0), Vernon Logan (9-0), Virgil Smith (8-0)

1941 OSU: Al Whitehurst (10-0), David Arndtv(11-0), Earl VanBebber (10-0)

1939 OSU: Joe McDaniel (10-0), Stanley Henson (10-0), Johnny Harrell (6-0)

1938 OSU: Joe McDaniel (11-0), Stanley Henson (11-0), Dale Scrivens (6-0)

1934 OSU: Rex Peery (10-0), Ross Flood (10-0), Alan Kelley (10-0)

1931 OSU: Bobby Pearce (6-0), LeRoy McGuirk (8-0), Jack VanBebber (5-0), Conrad Caldwell (5-0)

1930 OSU: Jack VanBebber (10-0), Conrad Caldwell (8-0), Earl McCready (8-0)

1929 OSU: Jack VanBebber (7-0), Conrad Caldwell (5-0), Earl McCready (7-0)

1928 OSU: Harold DeMarsh (5-0, George Rule (8-0), Earl McCready (10-0)

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12 hours ago, VakAttack said:

We know. No matter how many times Cael Sanderson says otherwise, you'll be right there to tell us what he secretly means.

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Yes. It means to help all his wrestlers achieve their individual goals... ie individual titles... which collaboratively in the end brings team championships. The individual titles are more important because without them it's much more difficult to win a team title. But I guess being an Iowa fan you wouldn't understand how it works looking at the past decade.

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Yes. It means to help all his wrestlers achieve their individual goals... ie individual titles... which collaboratively in the end brings team championships. The individual titles are more important because without them it's much more difficult to win a team title. But I guess being an Iowa fan you wouldn't understand how it works looking at the past decade.
I wonder why Cael only tells you that and just lies whenever he talks about it publicly. Weird.

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24 minutes ago, Fishbane said:

Teams with 3 undefeated national champions.  PSU has done it twice.  OU has done it once.  OSU has done it 11 times and even had 4 undefeated champs one season.  UNI has done it at least twice.

2022 PSU: Roman Bravo-Young (22-0), Nick Lee (22-0), Carter Starocci (23-0)

2012 PSU: Frank Molinaro (33-0), David Taylor (32-0), Ed Ruth (31-0)

1969 OU: David McGuire (21-0), Mike Grant (22-0), Cleo McGlory (21-0)

1965 OSU: Tadaaki Hatta (12-0), Yojiro Uetake (13-0), Jack Brisco (18-0)

1954 OSU: Myron Roderick (11-0), Ned Blass (12-0), Gene Nicks (10-0)

1950 UNI: Keith Young (14-0), Bill Nelson (14-0), Bill Smith (14-0)

1949 UNI: Keith Young (13-0), Bill Nelson (14-0), Bill Smith (11-0)

1946 UNI?: Cecil Mott (??), Gerry Leeman (8-0), Bill Koll (9-0)

1942 OSU: David Arndt (9-0), Vernon Logan (9-0), Virgil Smith (8-0)

1941 OSU: Al Whitehurst (10-0), David Arndtv(11-0), Earl VanBebber (10-0)

1939 OSU: Joe McDaniel (10-0), Stanley Henson (10-0), Johnny Harrell (6-0)

1938 OSU: Joe McDaniel (11-0), Stanley Henson (11-0), Dale Scrivens (6-0)

1934 OSU: Rex Peery (10-0), Ross Flood (10-0), Alan Kelley (10-0)

1931 OSU: Bobby Pearce (6-0), LeRoy McGuirk (8-0), Jack VanBebber (5-0), Conrad Caldwell (5-0)

1930 OSU: Jack VanBebber (10-0), Conrad Caldwell (8-0), Earl McCready (8-0)

1929 OSU: Jack VanBebber (7-0), Conrad Caldwell (5-0), Earl McCready (7-0)

1928 OSU: Harold DeMarsh (5-0, George Rule (8-0), Earl McCready (10-0)

Gotcha. I doubt I could have even found all that data. 

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PSU won because they are better than everyone else, and its not close.   The NCAA tourney is the best 3 days of the year. Don't fix what isn't broken.   Each conference awards dual meet championships, it counts. 

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2 hours ago, VakAttack said:

I wonder why Cael only tells you that and just lies whenever he talks about it publicly. Weird.

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Clearly youre not intelligent enough to out 2 and 2 together and figure out how winning a team title works. They dont just get manifested. You take care of the individuals.. get them to win individual titles, and the team title is a byproduct. Again, you wouldnt know since youre an iowa fan.

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