Casper 85 Report post Posted March 21 Who gets it? I thought Yianni was more impressive than Gable - who wore down visibly as he wrestled more matches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 411 Report post Posted March 21 Gable is going to get both. The retirement and Olympic Gold medal makes him a lock. Yes, I know not part of the formal criteria but he's going to win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, Casper said: Who gets it? I thought Yianni was more impressive than Gable - who wore down visibly as he wrestled more matches. Gable won the Hodge before the year even started. For OW it should be Starrocci or Aaron Brooks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,096 Report post Posted March 21 Gable did beat four guys who have won world medals at the age-group levels in his five wins. Couple champs and a Senior world teamer. Any human would “wear down” after running that gauntlet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 411 Report post Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, portajohn said: Gable won the Hodge before the year even started. For OW it should be Starrocci or Aaron Brooks I agree OW should be Starrocci for beating a former undefeated champ. But it's gonna be Gable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Better Call Stall 75 Report post Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Casper said: Who gets it? I thought Yianni was more impressive than Gable - who wore down visibly as he wrestled more matches. Agree, Yianni looked better for OW. O'Toole too, did not give up a single point until the championship match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red95 80 Report post Posted March 21 Steveson already won outstanding wrestler for the tournament. https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2022/March/19/Session-6-wrap-NCAA-finals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 327 Report post Posted March 21 Gabel tournament was somewhat disappointing because we have been used to seeing absolutely toy with top Heavies. If he did not have the last season of dominance behind him, how easily he blitzed the field would make him a clear OW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 1,200 Report post Posted March 21 6 hours ago, JasonBryant said: Gable did beat four guys who have won world medals at the age-group levels in his five wins. Couple champs and a Senior world teamer. Any human would “wear down” after running that gauntlet. Gable isn't human, have you not figured that out yet? 1 JasonBryant reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weems 43 Report post Posted March 21 None of Gable's opponents was as good as Daton Fix, Mekhi Lewis, or Myles Amine. All-bonus regular season is good for the Hodge but there were other strong candidates for NCAA tournament OW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,009 Report post Posted March 21 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I agree OW should be Starrocci for beating a former undefeated champ. But it's gonna be Gable. You may want to work on your facts a bit. Lewis lost twice the year he won it. Even if you switched it to an undefeated, former champ.....he lost to Hidlay in the dual before avenging that at ACC's. Hell, neither Hidlay, nor Lewis, was the number 1 seed at ACC's... Edited March 21 by MSU158 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mizzoufan01 36 Report post Posted March 21 O’Toole won the award for winning the toughest weight class. Don’t remember the name of the award. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4awrestler 72 Report post Posted March 21 None of Gable's opponents was as good as Daton Fix, Mekhi Lewis, or Myles Amine. All-bonus regular season is good for the Hodge but there were other strong candidates for NCAA tournament OW.Kerkvleit is a cadet world gold medalist and a junior world silver. Schultz a junior world silver in Greco, and he beat Parris by major twice who is a junior world gold medalist in freestyle, but yeah none of Gable’s opponents were as good as the others listed. Not counting Cassioppis accomplishments who he also majored during the regular season. Daton Fix, Mekhi Lewis and Amine are all world class but let’s not diminish the competition that Gable has gone up against. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Jim L and dman115 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling2 875 Report post Posted March 21 46 minutes ago, Mizzoufan01 said: O’Toole won the award for winning the toughest weight class. Don’t remember the name of the award. The Hammer - which is awarded by AWN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gallison 81 Report post Posted March 21 52 minutes ago, Mizzoufan01 said: O’Toole won the award for winning the toughest weight class. Don’t remember the name of the award. Hammer award from Amateur Wrestling News. I realize Keegan isn't from the "Big" wrestling conference but their justification was pretty solid. 165 had 9 returning All Americans, plus Keegan beat the returning champion in the finals. When you add in the fact that he gave up zero pts in all his matches leading up to the finals, that's some pretty solid credentials for OW. PS. I still think they'll give OW to Gable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weems 43 Report post Posted March 22 5 hours ago, 4awrestler said: but yeah none of Gable’s opponents were as good as the others listed correct Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 559 Report post Posted March 22 14 hours ago, 4awrestler said: Kerkvleit is a cadet world gold medalist and a junior world silver. Schultz a junior world silver in Greco, and he beat Parris by major twice who is a junior world gold medalist in freestyle, but yeah none of Gable’s opponents were as good as the others listed. Not counting Cassioppis accomplishments who he also majored during the regular season. Daton Fix, Mekhi Lewis and Amine are all world class but let’s not diminish the competition that Gable has gone up against. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk just to be accurate Schultz is a Jr World Gold in Greco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandolphJones 29 Report post Posted March 22 22 hours ago, portajohn said: Gable won the Hodge before the year even started. For OW it should be Starrocci or Aaron Brooks If you're starting a team and let's say Star & Brooks are the same age/grade level- Who are you going with? (Can only choose 1 of the 2) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 411 Report post Posted March 22 8 minutes ago, RandolphJones said: If you're starting a team and let's say Star & Brooks are the same age/grade level- Who are you going with? (Can only choose 1 of the 2) That's a really hard one. They are both so good in all positions but I think you have to go with Brooks as he is slightly better from neutral. Though Starroci might be a slightly better rider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4awrestler 72 Report post Posted March 22 just to be accurate Schultz is a Jr World Gold in GrecoI looked up his credentials on ASUs website so I apologize if it was wrong but it says 2019 Junior world silver, 2018 Junior world Bronze and 2017 Cadet world Gold all in Greco, so I missed that one. https://thesundevils.com/sports/wrestling/roster/cohlton--schultz/12583 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4awrestler 72 Report post Posted March 22 correctWrongSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 559 Report post Posted March 22 1 hour ago, 4awrestler said: I looked up his credentials on ASUs website so I apologize if it was wrong but it says 2019 Junior world silver, 2018 Junior world Bronze and 2017 Cadet world Gold all in Greco, so I missed that one. https://thesundevils.com/sports/wrestling/roster/cohlton--schultz/12583 My apologies - I knew he won Gold at an age group Championship - I guess that was Cadet - my mistake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elevator 307 Report post Posted March 22 I'd vote for RBY - Fix and ADS are as tough as any others in the tourney and many years would be NCAA champs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 439 Report post Posted March 22 5 hours ago, RandolphJones said: If you're starting a team and let's say Star & Brooks are the same age/grade level- Who are you going with? (Can only choose 1 of the 2) Brooks. No brainer for me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
