NJDan 1,113 Report post Posted March 21 The new rule would be that if the top wrestler has been riding for 30 seconds and has not scored back points and is not in the process of turning the bottom wrestler, the ref blows it dead and puts both wrestlers back on their feet. This rule would not prevent stalling on either top or bottom, but would limit its duration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twooooo 57 Report post Posted March 21 I have always thought this rule would work very well. 1 NJDan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeanGuy 147 Report post Posted March 21 Ditto. No escape point and no limitless ride. I would also move the riding time point to 1:30. That way if you want it you need at least two takedowns, a takedown and a reversal, or one takedown and two starts on top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4awrestler 72 Report post Posted March 21 Ditto. No escape point and no limitless ride. I would also move the riding time point to 1:30. That way if you want it you need at least two takedowns, a takedown and a reversal, or one takedown and two starts on top.Don’t agree with no escape point but don’t mind no limitless ride. Also don’t care for 1:30 before a point is awarded if they are awarding one, why make it more incentive to try to ride longer? I get there would be less RT points awarded but all you’re going to do is encourage guys to try to ride longer to earn that point. I think it’s counterproductive for what you’re trying to accomplish. No RT point without nearfall is a possibility but again if top guy is able to turn does he really need an extra point? I don’t know jury is still out on that for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 557 Report post Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, 4awrestler said: Don’t agree with no escape point but don’t mind no limitless ride. Also don’t care for 1:30 before a point is awarded if they are awarding one, why make it more incentive to try to ride longer? I get there would be less RT points awarded but all you’re going to do is encourage guys to try to ride longer to earn that point. I think it’s counterproductive for what you’re trying to accomplish. No RT point without nearfall is a possibility but again if top guy is able to turn does he really need an extra point? I don’t know jury is still out on that for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The logic behind the no escape point always strikes me as people trying too hard to be “smart” rather than actually come up with a good rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4awrestler 72 Report post Posted March 21 The logic behind the no escape point always strikes me as people trying too hard to be “smart” rather than actually come up with a good rule If you want to make TDs worth 3 or at least the first TD worth 3 and an escape worth 1, you might incentivize guys to try harder for a TD instead of being content with ending the period 0-0. Not saying it’s right but it might encourage more active 1st periods Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Fletcher reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeanGuy 147 Report post Posted March 21 (edited) 32 minutes ago, 4awrestler said: Don’t agree with no escape point but don’t mind no limitless ride. Also don’t care for 1:30 before a point is awarded if they are awarding one, why make it more incentive to try to ride longer? I get there would be less RT points awarded but all you’re going to do is encourage guys to try to ride longer to earn that point. I think it’s counterproductive for what you’re trying to accomplish. No RT point without nearfall is a possibility but again if top guy is able to turn does he really need an extra point? I don’t know jury is still out on that for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This was based upon the proposal in the original post. If no turn after 30 seconds you reset to neutral. Can't award an escape because one did not occur and it limits all rides to 30 seconds. I am not saying to eliminate the escape point. If during that 30 second ride period you escape you get 1. If nothing happens in 30 seconds reset to neutral and that is it. Edited March 21 by JeanGuy add sentence Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,113 Report post Posted March 21 1 hour ago, JeanGuy said: This was based upon the proposal in the original post. If no turn after 30 seconds you reset to neutral. Can't award an escape because one did not occur and it limits all rides to 30 seconds. I am not saying to eliminate the escape point. If during that 30 second ride period you escape you get 1. If nothing happens in 30 seconds reset to neutral and that is it. Exactly and it escapes often occur within 30 seconds of the start of a ride so there would be no reason not try for one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 592 Report post Posted March 21 2 hours ago, 4awrestler said: No RT point without nearfall is a possibility but again if top guy is able to turn does he really need an extra point? I don’t know jury is still out on that for me Conversely, if the top guy is not able to turn, does he deserve and extra point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4awrestler 72 Report post Posted March 21 Conversely, if the top guy is not able to turn, does he deserve and extra point?I’m not sure, at times I like the RT point but at others it frustrates me that a guy will just rack up 3+ minutes of RT usually laying on a hip or leg riding not really working to turn. There has to be a better way to encourage turns and more offense which I think most of us want to see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jp157 557 Report post Posted March 21 3 hours ago, 4awrestler said: If you want to make TDs worth 3 or at least the first TD worth 3 and an escape worth 1, you might incentivize guys to try harder for a TD instead of being content with ending the period 0-0. Not saying it’s right but it might encourage more active 1st periods Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Key words are “might” and it also flat out goes against the entire premise of folkstyle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,500 Report post Posted March 21 I like this rule. 1 NJDan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKHUNTER 316 Report post Posted March 21 or refs could call the rule book on stalling as stated............ what a concept 1 4awrestler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
