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RBY vs Spencer Lee

RBY vs Spencer Lee  

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  1. 1. RBY ve Spencer Lee

    • RBY Victory
      20
    • Spencer Lee Victory
      28
    • Toss Up
      8


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11 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Peak of their powers?  It depends on how big RBY is.

Lets assume peak.  And OP on Hawkeye Report had it at a catch weight @ 129...I think its a fun fantasy debate.  I have it as a toss up to slightly favoring Lee

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31 minutes ago, portajohn said:

Lets assume peak.  And OP on Hawkeye Report had it at a catch weight @ 129...I think its a fun fantasy debate.  I have it as a toss up to slightly favoring Lee

If RBY has to cut to 129, definitely Lee.

One thing that helps Lee in any match up, even if RBY is bigger, is that RBY isn't going to wear Lee down as sometimes happens because he's not overly physical or high volume.

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13 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said:

RBY beat Ragusin 4-0 whereas Lee teched him. Therefore, based on that wholly valid reasoning Lee should smash the 133 champ

 

I'd pick Lee but terrible analogy.  This is the same false equivalency used in the Taylor/Dake fantasy match ups

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said:

RBY beat Ragusin 4-0 whereas Lee teched him. Therefore, based on that wholly valid reasoning Lee should smash the 133 champ

 

Ah, the transitive property of sports. Common opponents really mean very little. All that said if we are talking a fully healthy Lee (I 'm not even sure what that means) and RBY at each's ideal fantasy weight that ends up being similar I would probably go with Lee. His top game is so dynamic. I do think it would be much closer than many believe.

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19 minutes ago, Mr. Poopy butthole said:

RBY beat Ragusin 4-0 whereas Lee teched him. Therefore, based on that wholly valid reasoning Lee should smash the 133 champ

 

Lee got taken down in free by Daton Fix. Fix can't even come close to taking down RBY. Seems equally valid.

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Not a fan of catchweights.

Oddly I am a fan of +2 for non-qualifying tournaments, providing scratch weight was used before using the +2 (in folkstyle).  In freestyle just do +2 all the time unless it is a qualifying event.

That being said, RBY isn't making 125, 57, or 57 +2.  That makes this match at 133 for folkstyle and 61 for freestyle.

In folkstyle I think RBY's speed is just too much.  Even for a 125lber coming up.

In freestyle Lee's just going to outfreestyle him.

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If it is Lee bumping up then he loses. He's not beating rby at 133. I don't think rby even attempts to get below 133 so any discussion of a catch weight is probably pointless. Would be a good match.

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