steen-hooph 74 Report post Posted April 5 4 hours ago, TheHeel said: I bet you his daddy wants to be on staff somewhere. Look for him to land somewhere with a vacancy at lightweight coach or with a good RTC position available. Sam is running a successful wrestling school in Mid-Missouri and just built a new facility there. I doubt he's looking for a coaching gig outside of the one he already has. 1 TexRef reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BAC 248 Report post Posted April 5 20 hours ago, wrestlingphish said: It was also liked by Nelson Brands and a bunch of current Hawks. Friends supporting friends. I wonder what something like this does to morale and loyalty on a team. Obviously anyone can transfer in at any time, and the guys know that. No one would expect the coaches to say "no, don't come here, that weight's taken." But when there's an active recruiting war and talk of NIL money being thrown around, all to bring in a guy to supplant a blue chip recruit who had an outstanding redshirt season? You see that happen to a hardworking teammate, and that's got to tell you that the loyalty runs only one way. If you could poll Henson's teammates, I wonder what they'd say about how they feel about this? More excited, or more betrayed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,514 Report post Posted April 5 1 hour ago, BAC said: I wonder what something like this does to morale and loyalty on a team. Obviously anyone can transfer in at any time, and the guys know that. No one would expect the coaches to say "no, don't come here, that weight's taken." But when there's an active recruiting war and talk of NIL money being thrown around, all to bring in a guy to supplant a blue chip recruit who had an outstanding redshirt season? You see that happen to a hardworking teammate, and that's got to tell you that the loyalty runs only one way. If you could poll Henson's teammates, I wonder what they'd say about how they feel about this? More excited, or more betrayed? Honestly my comment was more sarcasm, but I don't see how anyone could blame him. Not to sound like a PSU fan because I'm definitely not, but I do think it's interesting that you have Henson, an unproven redshirt, entering the portal literally the day after Woods commits, meanwhile PSU has an All American on the bench due to a transfer that has shown no indication of wanting to transfer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BAC 248 Report post Posted April 5 9 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Not to sound like a PSU fan because I'm definitely not, but I do think it's interesting that you have Henson, an unproven redshirt, entering the portal literally the day after Woods commits, meanwhile PSU has an All American on the bench due to a transfer that has shown no indication of wanting to transfer. I think that is interesting too. There's outward similarities to what happened to Beard and Henson, but I suspect the difference lies in details in the two situations that we aren't privy to. I would think there's a difference between your coaches actively recruiting and incentivizing someone to transfer in to take your spot, as opposed to your coaches merely not saying no when someone expresses interest in transferring in. I have my suspicious of which is which here, but I don't really know. I do think that coaches need to learn to be very careful in how they approach transfer situations so their existing recruits, who have put in the time and sweat, don't feel like fungible afterthoughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingcement 917 Report post Posted April 5 I relate to Henson decision. I can't wrap my head around why Beard would stick around to remain a backup but I'm sure he has his reasons Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHeel 71 Report post Posted April 5 1 hour ago, steen-hooph said: Sam is running a successful wrestling school in Mid-Missouri and just built a new facility there. I doubt he's looking for a coaching gig outside of the one he already has. Rolling stones tend to roll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocBZ 197 Report post Posted April 5 2 hours ago, flyingcement said: I relate to Henson decision. I can't wrap my head around why Beard would stick around to remain a backup but I'm sure he has his reasons RTC $$$ 1 BLT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,101 Report post Posted April 5 3 hours ago, flyingcement said: I relate to Henson decision. I can't wrap my head around why Beard would stick around to remain a backup but I'm sure he has his reasons Carl has built a wrestling culture that is transcends competition - look no further than Snyder talking about it and showcased in his trip with Sadulaev who by all intents and purposes should be the person he despises most. It’s what keeps guys like the Nevills and Beard around when they could be AAs elsewhere. Nothing wrong with a good workplace culture. 3 Yellow_Medal, Bigboi Trained and Perry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D White 13 Report post Posted April 6 17 hours ago, DocBZ said: RTC $$$ You have proof of this obviously, correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 105 Report post Posted April 6 20 hours ago, flyingcement said: I relate to Henson decision. I can't wrap my head around why Beard would stick around to remain a backup but I'm sure he has his reasons It could be any number of things. Academics, family, girlfriend, culture, etc. Sure, it could be RTC money, but all of this is speculation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocBZ 197 Report post Posted April 6 3 hours ago, D White said: You have proof of this obviously, correct? ye$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy08 29 Report post Posted April 6 On 4/5/2022 at 2:46 PM, ShakaAloha said: You say that like it's a bad thing. Sammy is a 2x NCAA Champ, Olympic Silver, and World Champ. He has better credentials that 99% of the guys coaching in Div. I. True but that doesn't make you a good coach, and I'm not saying Sammie is a bad coach but he did do a terrible job at West Virginia when he had his chance 3 Scrap Iron, GranbyTroll and CoachWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steen-hooph 74 Report post Posted April 8 On 4/5/2022 at 3:45 PM, TheHeel said: Rolling stones tend to roll. Point taken, but with the new facility just built, rolling on might be a little more difficult with the investment made. I'm not close to the situation beyond being a Missouri resident, which only puts me physically close. Just musing from afar. I know he's got some tough kids though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Relentless125 79 Report post Posted April 8 On 4/4/2022 at 12:10 PM, RoosterAttack said: Highly doubt it they have there 141 of the future who beat there ncaa finalist this year in the wrestle off When and who was that? Kizhan Clarke beat Wil Guida at 141 pounds in the pre-season wrestle-offs, 7-3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,085 Report post Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Relentless125 said: When and who was that? Kizhan Clarke beat Wil Guida at 141 pounds in the pre-season wrestle-offs, 7-3. I suspect Wil is more of a 133- didn't realize he had grown this much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoosterAttack 14 Report post Posted April 9 5 hours ago, Relentless125 said: When and who was that? Kizhan Clarke beat Wil Guida at 141 pounds in the pre-season wrestle-offs, 7-3. Lachlan McNeil kid is a hammer 1 Relentless125 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 328 Report post Posted April 10 On 4/5/2022 at 6:40 PM, DocBZ said: RTC $$$ Why would NLWC spend their $$$ on a backup? 1 Le duke reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 432 Report post Posted April 11 On 4/10/2022 at 4:32 AM, Jim L said: Why would NLWC spend their $$$ on a backup? Keep away from another program, or a training partner for KS, DT, etc. The better question is how much money Beard got to give up two years of eligibility? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,103 Report post Posted April 12 Well, I suppose FYI: - Senior Freestyle (Division) - 61kg (Weight) - Wyatt Henson (Name) - Missouri (State) - Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club (Club) ~134.5lbs, so who needs a 133lber? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlbruem 141 Report post Posted April 13 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Well, I suppose FYI: - Senior Freestyle (Division) - 61kg (Weight) - Wyatt Henson (Name) - Missouri (State) - Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club (Club) ~134.5lbs, so who needs a 133lber? M I Z Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 1,035 Report post Posted April 13 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Well, I suppose FYI: - Senior Freestyle (Division) - 61kg (Weight) - Wyatt Henson (Name) - Missouri (State) - Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club (Club) ~134.5lbs, so who needs a 133lber? If Henson plans on going 133, does that mean he didn’t transfer because of Woods and instead it was just weird timing? I would have to think he would have been competitive with Schriever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mizzoufan01 46 Report post Posted April 13 38 minutes ago, mlbruem said: M I Z If it happened, would Seltzer RS? 133 and 157 were big holes in our lineup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoosterAttack 14 Report post Posted April 13 Let’s not forget big difference in making 134.5 once now compared to twice a week at 133 for months in a row 8- 11 months from now. Just saying (and yes ik the Brands sit guys a lot also) 3 uncle bernard, GranbyTroll and JBluegill133 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,514 Report post Posted April 13 11 hours ago, nhs67 said: Well, I suppose FYI: - Senior Freestyle (Division) - 61kg (Weight) - Wyatt Henson (Name) - Missouri (State) - Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club (Club) ~134.5lbs, so who needs a 133lber? Iowa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,309 Report post Posted April 13 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Iowa? Looks like they don't have the resources to keep quality backups around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites