1032004 1,454 Report post Posted April 6 May have something to do with this: and this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,016 Report post Posted April 6 *crosses fingers* Please don't be my team, please don't be my team, please don't be my team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,016 Report post Posted April 6 Dang it, did anybody listen to Willie's show, I can't listen right now at work. He indicated in his tweet he'd be naming names on who was being turned in to compliance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riz23 51 Report post Posted April 6 29 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Dang it, did anybody listen to Willie's show, I can't listen right now at work. He indicated in his tweet he'd be naming names on who was being turned in to compliance. Yes Willie has been saying names have been turned into the NCAA, coaches have had enough of the money backed programs poaching kids. All I gotta say is Iowa better know that their stuff with Woods can’t be traced to contacting him before he was in the portal. Because even with NIL, you cannot contact players who are not in the portal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,344 Report post Posted April 6 Good! If teams are throwing NIL money around to recruit kids not in the portal, they need to be held responsible. They need to bring the hammer down hard on those teams. Someone post who listened to the show. 3 Riz23, Show_Me and CB reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elevator 307 Report post Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, Riz23 said: Yes Willie has been saying names have been turned into the NCAA, coaches have had enough of the money backed programs poaching kids. All I gotta say is Iowa better know that their stuff with Woods can’t be traced to contacting him before he was in the portal. Because even with NIL, you cannot contact players who are not in the portal. Skpetical that top programs would attempt blatant poaching in this venue. But it is a tight community and easy enough to invite a great competitor to come visit and train at the RTC for freestyle without it being poaching relating to NCAA regulations. RTC recruitment is not prohibitted by NCAA recruitrement limitations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riz23 51 Report post Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Elevator said: Skpetical that top programs would attempt blatant poaching in this venue. But it is a tight community and easy enough to invite a great competitor to come visit and train at the RTC for freestyle without it being poaching relating to NCAA regulations. RTC recruitment is not prohibitted by NCAA recruitrement limitations. Woods went into the portal with a “do not contact” attached to him. He had a deal worked out before he hit the portal. the real question here isn’t whether they broke the rules or not it’s proving it. 2 1 1 Alwayswrestling, powershouse, BLT and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,160 Report post Posted April 6 39 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Dang it, did anybody listen to Willie's show, I can't listen right now at work. He indicated in his tweet he'd be naming names on who was being turned in to compliance. Per @Husker_Du, Michigan and Iowa. 3rd parties reportedly reaching out to current athletes that are not in the portal suggesting that if they do enter the portal there could be some sort of deal worked out. 2 Riz23 and Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,344 Report post Posted April 6 7 minutes ago, Riz23 said: Woods went into the portal with a “do not contact” attached to him. He had a deal worked out before he hit the portal. the real question here isn’t whether they broke the rules or not it’s proving it. It was a very short time between the news he was in the portal to the commitment to Iowa. 2 DocBZ and Riz23 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,454 Report post Posted April 6 Certainly an interesting turn of events compared to what some may have thought if PSU is an accuser, not an accused here (including apparently their guys who are not in the portal being talked to). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 127 Report post Posted April 6 If these allegations against Iowa & Michigan are true and verifiable, then the schools in question should suffer serious consequences. Can't have this type of thing. 1 Idaho reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,016 Report post Posted April 6 Per @Husker_Du, Michigan and Iowa. 3rd parties reportedly reaching out to current athletes that are not in the portal suggesting that if they do enter the portal there could be some sort of deal worked out. Dang it. Obviously can't be surprised they're the ones implicated given the fact they just got the biggest transfer. Wait and see now. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted April 6 Is there an issue if the athlete initiates the contact? Or is all contact forbidden if an athlete is not in the portal, regardless? 1 RealAmericanHero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 127 Report post Posted April 6 1 minute ago, RealAmericanHero said: If these allegations against Iowa & Michigan are true and verifiable, then the schools in question should suffer serious consequences. Can't have this type of thing. Additionally, if the only schools proven to be engaged and benefiting from such practices hail from the same conference, then possibly the conference should suffer too. I'm just typing out loud here. This could be a step too far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riz23 51 Report post Posted April 6 Another rumor is that a HWC booster was promising things to Woods when he wasn’t in the portal and that is illegal because he’s a booster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,160 Report post Posted April 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Dang it. Obviously can't be surprised they're the ones implicated given the fact they just got the biggest transfer. Wait and see now. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Actually, Willie said it has nothing at all to do with Real Woods. He also mentioned specifically that a team was trying to poach Buchanan from Wyoming. Pretty obvious that would be Michigan. Last thing he said was that there are other schools doing the same thing that he's heard of but hasn't yet heard that it's risen to the level of someone reporting it. Edited April 6 by steamboat_charlie v2 1 DocBZ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,016 Report post Posted April 6 Another rumor is that a HWC booster was promising things to Woods when he wasn’t in the portal and that is illegal because he’s a booster. That's from Willie? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,344 Report post Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, RealAmericanHero said: If these allegations against Iowa & Michigan are true and verifiable, then the schools in question should suffer serious consequences. Can't have this type of thing. Absolutely 100% ! It's tampering and a "recruiting violation" of sorts. Remember Ok. State? I am a Michigan fan, but this sort of stuff is bad for wrestling ... This is exactly what I posted yesterday - that we would see more plucking of good talent that has been developed by a mid/low tier teams because of NIL money that can be offered. 2 RealAmericanHero and BerniePragle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry 102 Report post Posted April 6 None of this is surprising. The top tier schools are going to view the lower tier programs as their minor league development system. 1 Jim L reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,454 Report post Posted April 6 1 hour ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said: Actually, Willie said it has nothing at all to do with Real Woods. He also mentioned specifically that a team was trying to poach Buchanan from Wyoming. Pretty obvious that would be Michigan. Last thing he said was that there are other schools doing the same thing that he's heard of but hasn't yet heard that it's risen to the level of someone reporting it. Why is it obvious that would be Michigan? Or just because apparently only Iowa and Michigan were mentioned? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riz23 51 Report post Posted April 6 (edited) 12 minutes ago, VakAttack said: That's from Willie? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk No it’s just another rumor I saw floating around, booster is named in it as well. The Iowa implication for this general topic is said booster contacted Woods before he was in the portal. Edited April 6 by Riz23 1 BLT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,160 Report post Posted April 6 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Why is it obvious that would be Michigan? Or just because apparently only Iowa and Michigan were mentioned? I put on my Sherlock Holmes hat and did some deducing of my own. Iowa doesn't need a 197. Michigan does. Willie talked to Mark Branch. Mark Branch is reporting Michigan for reaching out to Buchanan. Bormet will claim ignorance. But Bormet is Colonel Jessup. He ordered the code red. Get Cruise on the case. 1 1 TBar1977 and GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 2,012 Report post Posted April 6 9 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Why is it obvious that would be Michigan? Or just because apparently only Iowa and Michigan were mentioned? Yeah, Iowa still has Warner and MI is barren at 197… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voice_of_the_Quakers 133 Report post Posted April 6 48 minutes ago, Idaho said: Good! If teams are throwing NIL money around to recruit kids not in the portal, they need to be held responsible. Yeah, it will be just like Men's basketball... https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-infractions-case-bill-self-kansas-title-game-190251008.html NCAA in a nutshell: Bill Self, Kansas win national title with infractions case still pending. 1 drag it reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,074 Report post Posted April 6 26 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said: He also mentioned specifically that a team was trying to poach Buchanan from Wyoming. Pretty obvious that would be Michigan. He wouldn't transfer- he's too Loyal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
