jackwebster 337 Report post Posted May 2 (edited) It's that time of year, again: JO comes up short, and I try to figure out why. Maybe I'm just a fan that keeps hoping for some breakthrough that's not in the cards. You know what his style reminds me of? Super-hero/action-movie fights. When Hulk and Thor fight, they both close the distance and then proceed to kick, punch, throw the other across the screen and chase em down to do the exact same thing again. Why not just grab the dude, ground n pound, and strangle them? JO does something similar: he closes the gap and then does a two-arm shove. Repeat. IDK I also root for the Washington Football Team. Just a frustrated fan. Edited May 2 by jackwebster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,611 Report post Posted May 2 Never confuse pushing with wrestling. Wrestling is a lot more than just pushing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwebster 337 Report post Posted May 2 7 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Never confuse pushing with wrestling. Wrestling is a lot more than just pushing. Word 1 TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 649 Report post Posted May 6 On 5/2/2022 at 7:26 AM, jackwebster said: It's that time of year, again: JO comes up short, and I try to figure out why. Maybe I'm just a fan that keeps hoping for some breakthrough that's not in the cards. You know what his style reminds me of? Super-hero/action-movie fights. When Hulk and Thor fight, they both close the distance and then proceed to kick, punch, throw the other across the screen and chase em down to do the exact same thing again. Why not just grab the dude, ground n pound, and strangle them? JO does something similar: he closes the gap and then does a two-arm shove. Repeat. IDK I also root for the Washington Football Team. Just a frustrated fan. Where did that 2 arm shove come from? I seem to remember him employing it during his matches with Pico as a way to thwart his pressure. Maybe I’m wrong but around that time he added it to his game. Do other wrestlers do that? I know Burroughs does it occasionally but It’s not as pronounced and I can’t think of many others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,138 Report post Posted May 6 The two armed shove stems from Metcalf. 10 times out of 10 if Metcalf was getting inside on him he was losing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwebster 337 Report post Posted May 6 9 hours ago, AnklePicker said: Where did that 2 arm shove come from? I seem to remember him employing it during his matches with Pico as a way to thwart his pressure. Maybe I’m wrong but around that time he added it to his game. Do other wrestlers do that? I know Burroughs does it occasionally but It’s not as pronounced and I can’t think of many others. Coleman Scott did it, too. Both are/were trying to maintain space without backing up, without looking passive. It's irritating bc both guys score more often from elbow ties than from zero ties. Maybe the idea is to create more opportunities to get to the elbow tie before the opponent completely clamps down with the inside tie (Metcalf). Idk. Like I said, it looks like a movie fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,049 Report post Posted May 6 7 hours ago, nhs67 said: The two armed shove stems from Metcalf. 10 times out of 10 if Metcalf was getting inside on him he was losing. That's the first time I remember seeing it. My thought was well he's like 0 for 5 or something might as well try something different... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,138 Report post Posted May 6 2 hours ago, Lurker said: That's the first time I remember seeing it. My thought was well he's like 0 for 5 or something might as well try something different... Yeah, I remember watching and whoever was calling the match (forget who off the top of my head) even said as much - the ole might as well try method. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
