juniorvarsity 18 Report post Posted May 16 9 of the 30 wrestlers that placed top 3 at the 2022 NCAAs are registered for WTT(30%). 4 of the 9 registered are NCAA Champions but they were all qualified for WTT before the NCAA tournament. Only 2 wrestlers registered for WTT qualified via their NCAA placement - Wood and Carr. The 7 other wrestlers registered were qualified for WTT before NCAAs. Technically Schultz has two qualifications but is only doing Greco. He qualified for freestyle via his NCAA finish but that I ignored that here. I am surprised by how few registered. I think a lot of these wrestlers that opted out would have had a big impact at WTT. Do you think USA Wrestling expected this low of a turn out with this year's qualification criteria? It is disappointing to me. Why is this happening? I think coaches should have their wrestlers "opt out" instead of asking them to "opt in" for WTT. List of Top 3 Finishers below: Suriano Glory Vito Registered RBY Fix Registered Desanto Lee Registered Clarke Rivera N/A Yianni Registered Lovett Andonian Deakin Registered Monday Carr Registered O’Toole Griffith Wick Croatia? Starocci Registered Lewis Hidlay Brooks Amine N/A Keckeisen Dean Warner Buchanan Gable Retired Schultz Greco Wood Registered 2 1 Wrestleknownothing, IfYouAin'tFirstYou'reLast and Jon_Kozak reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,511 Report post Posted May 16 57 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said: 9 of the 30 wrestlers that placed top 3 at the 2022 NCAAs are registered for WTT(30%). ... I am surprised by how few registered. I think a lot of these wrestlers that opted out would have had a big impact at WTT. Do you think USA Wrestling expected this low of a turn out with this year's qualification criteria? It is disappointing to me. Why is this happening? I think coaches should have their wrestlers "opt out" instead of asking them to "opt in" for WTT. Do you know how many normally register? This seems small to me too, but I have no historical knowledge to base it off of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 621 Report post Posted May 16 (edited) One possible explanation: very few of the actual or prospective WTT wrestlers have a legitimate chance to win at Final X. Suriano and Vito might be able to challenge at 57KG. A guess: Suriano didn't want to cut the weight after winning NCAAs. RBY could have challenged Fix. Not sure why he isn't showing up. (MMA training maybe?) Very few, if any, guys could challenge either Dake or even Nolf. Lots of interesting contenders at 79KG but still need to get past JB. DT is a tall order at 86 KG, as are Cox and Snyder at 92 and 97 KG. (Don't think that Brooks is at that level yet.) 125 is open without GS and there is a fair amount of competition there. In short, one main reason might be that the US team is pretty stacked. But, yes, it is a bit disappointing that more guys aren't throwing their hats into the ring.. You have to start somewhere and climb the high ladder. 57 KG at WTT is very weak. The first 4 seeds at 65 and 70 are strong. Nolf should run through 74 KG. 79 KG is by far the strongest weight. As many as 7 guys could possibly win. 3 or 4 solid guys at 86 KG. 92 KG is pretty thin. Only the top 2 have a shot at 97 KG. Edited May 16 by dmm53 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,065 Report post Posted May 16 I just don't see the college class making big noise this year. Maybe a few placers, but looks to be primarily the usual suspects who have already announced their presence on the senior circuit. Vito, Fix , Yianni, N. Lee, Deakin, and Schultz (GR) are all known quantities. Starocci might have a proper coming-out party but I still think Ringer runs through 79. Maybe O'Toole and Lewis make waves which would not be a surprise given their pedigree, but I just don't see it this year overall. Wick and Massa appear to be gatekeepers but they are also not exactly spry chickens so it feels a bit disingenuous to include them given the unique covid-shirt circumstances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juniorvarsity 18 Report post Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Do you know how many normally register? This seems small to me too, but I have no historical knowledge to base it off of. This is the first year where the top 3 qualify. It has been champs only in past years, but seeing the percent of champs that register each year would be interesting. 1 Wrestleknownothing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestleknownothing 1,511 Report post Posted May 17 8 hours ago, juniorvarsity said: List of Top 3 Finishers below: Suriano Glory Vito Registered RBY Fix Registered Desanto Lee Registered Clarke Rivera N/A Yianni Registered Lovett Andonian Deakin Registered Monday Carr Registered O’Toole Griffith Wick Croatia? Starocci Registered Lewis Hidlay Brooks Amine N/A Keckeisen Dean Warner Buchanan Gable Retired Schultz Greco Wood Registered Should Clarke be an N/A? Does he wrestle for Germany? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,464 Report post Posted May 17 20 hours ago, dmm53 said: One possible explanation: very few of the actual or prospective WTT wrestlers have a legitimate chance to win at Final X. Suriano and Vito might be able to challenge at 57KG. A guess: Suriano didn't want to cut the weight after winning NCAAs. RBY could have challenged Fix. Not sure why he isn't showing up. (MMA training maybe?) Very few, if any, guys could challenge either Dake or even Nolf. Lots of interesting contenders at 79KG but still need to get past JB. DT is a tall order at 86 KG, as are Cox and Snyder at 92 and 97 KG. (Don't think that Brooks is at that level yet.) 125 is open without GS and there is a fair amount of competition there. In short, one main reason might be that the US team is pretty stacked. But, yes, it is a bit disappointing that more guys aren't throwing their hats into the ring.. You have to start somewhere and climb the high ladder. 57 KG at WTT is very weak. The first 4 seeds at 65 and 70 are strong. Nolf should run through 74 KG. 79 KG is by far the strongest weight. As many as 7 guys could possibly win. 3 or 4 solid guys at 86 KG. 92 KG is pretty thin. Only the top 2 have a shot at 97 KG. I thought part of the reason Suriano wrestled 125 this year was because he was already wrestling 57kg internationally? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 920 Report post Posted May 18 On 5/17/2022 at 9:42 AM, 1032004 said: I thought part of the reason Suriano wrestled 125 this year was because he was already wrestling 57kg internationally? He went 125 as a Vision Quest for Spencer Lee. 1 1 Alwayswrestling and spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 1,126 Report post Posted May 19 He went 125 as a Vision Quest for Spencer Lee.That's 100% how I described it... (Library clap ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
