Le duke 454 Report post Posted June 15 51 minutes ago, IGotAPlan said: I'm also super curious how Facundo looks. Ton of potential but didn't show much in his redshirt year (heard he was pretty nicked up though) but that probably has been the case for many kids who would blossom as redshirt freshman. He was able to dominate weaker competition (bonusing most of them, scoring 20 regularly even) but didn't do well offensively against NQ type guys (as was expected) Cael himself said it really comes down to setting up your attacks and finishing since he's athletic enough to get to the legs whenever. Haven't seen enough of him during freestyle season that you can extrapolate (he dominated kids he should be dominating) If he wins World Gold, yeah, we have something there then (like Carr, Lewis, O'Toole) He'll be getting the Casey Cunningham treatment this summer. He didn't get it last year, with NLWC's Olympians and training partners (DT, Bekzod, Gomez, AB, Starocci) being at camps and gone for a lot of the off season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 58 Report post Posted June 15 5 minutes ago, Le duke said: He'll be getting the Casey Cunningham treatment this summer. He didn't get it last year, with NLWC's Olympians and training partners (DT, Bekzod, Gomez, AB, Starocci) being at camps and gone for a lot of the off season. And I expect him to make a jump but he had a long way to go as of last year. Ls to Bullard, JM Best and Fish. He didn't give up takedowns in 2 of those matches though, which is his MO, he is very difficult to takedown but he needs to get to his offense as well. 165 will also be very tough to AA at but that's the situation every year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,611 Report post Posted June 15 13 minutes ago, Le duke said: He'll be getting the Casey Cunningham treatment this summer. He didn't get it last year, with NLWC's Olympians and training partners (DT, Bekzod, Gomez, AB, Starocci) being at camps and gone for a lot of the off season. 6 minutes ago, IGotAPlan said: And I expect him to make a jump but he had a long way to go as of last year. Ls to Bullard, JM Best and Fish. He didn't give up takedowns in 2 of those matches though, which is his MO, he is very difficult to takedown but he needs to get to his offense as well. 165 will also be very tough to AA at but that's the situation every year. Facundo is so exceptional defensively already, so when Cunningham improves his top and bottom games and he already can get to legs so a little polish on the finishes and he should be a lot more dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 58 Report post Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Facundo is so exceptional defensively already, so when Cunningham improves his top and bottom games and he already can get to legs so a little polish on the finishes and he should be a lot more dangerous. I'm curious how he looks at Worlds. It's been a few years but he did well Internationally at Cadets (2 bronzes) 1 Elevator reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,611 Report post Posted June 15 1 minute ago, IGotAPlan said: I'm curious how he looks at Worlds. It's been a few years but he did well Internationally at Cadets (2 bronzes) My only concern with Worlds, and this seems to happen a lot, is that they fly over to Eastern Europe and after a really, really long flight they are wrestling within 24 hours. I think the trend has been that guys who wrestle with another 24 hours rest do better. 1 IGotAPlan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 58 Report post Posted June 15 Levi Haines is definitely an AA contender if he wrestles next year. The match that was most eye opening was him going up 8-1 on Andrew Cerniglia his first college tournament (before Cerniglia defaulted) He was bullying a legitimate grown man as a HS senior without coaching yet (I doubt Cael/Casey gave him any attention in the middle of the season, he was probably just rolling around with guys on the team) He was pretty even with Paddy (who was edge wrestling a bit) The final score was misleading, Levi found the go ahead takedown down 3-2 and turked a broken Gallagher for 4. That was the only match he was remotely a threat to lose in his 2 college tournaments. As for his losses to Mesenbrink, doubt there is much to extrapolate from that. Hamiti lost to Facundo last year at Juniors (and also to Caliendo) Neither were ready to have as good of a folk season as he would this year (6th in a deep 165 class) Max Dean got teched by Foca at 189 last year, Foca was 1-2 at 174 this year and Dean won 197. 1 Elevator reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,611 Report post Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, IGotAPlan said: Levi Haines is definitely an AA contender if he wrestles next year. The match that was most eye opening was him going up 8-1 on Andrew Cerniglia his first college tournament (before Cerniglia defaulted) He was bullying a legitimate grown man as a HS senior without coaching yet (I doubt Cael/Casey gave him any attention in the middle of the season, he was probably just rolling around with guys on the team) He was pretty even with Paddy (who was edge wrestling a bit) The final score was misleading, Levi found the go ahead takedown down 3-2 and turked a broken Gallagher for 4. That was the only match he was remotely a threat to lose in his 2 college tournaments. As for his losses to Mesenbrink, doubt there is much to extrapolate from that. Hamiti lost to Facundo last year at Juniors (and also to Caliendo) Neither were ready to have as good of a folk season as he would this year (6th in a deep 165 class) Max Dean got teched by Foca at 189 last year, Foca was 1-2 at 174 this year and Dean won 197. Total agreement with everything you posted here, IGAP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 58 Report post Posted June 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Total agreement with everything you posted here, IGAP. I don't think he wrestles next year ... I imagine he wants to (why he skipped senior year) but it'll be interesting to see what Cael's call is. The points aren't needed right now but he is a "break in case of emergency" option if God forbid, injuries or other guys aren't developing for Cael. That or maybe Cael doesn't want another undefeated 4 timer and the risk is way too high if he redshirts Levi ;-) Edited June 15 by IGotAPlan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotAPlan 58 Report post Posted June 15 18 hours ago, JeanGuy said: AA's are a zero sum game. To put someone else on you have to say who won't make it. I think the PSU thing in fair for June. You can't place Howard, Bartlett, Van Ness, Haines, Facundo/Lee/etc. when they haven't had any meaningful college matches at those weights. Come January it may be a different story. Bartlett is a prime example, people think he will become a world beater at 141 vs 149 but I happen to believe he is a one or two takedown kind of wrestler and that is who he will remain. I think he will be better at 141 but I can't say I think Top 8. Bartlett at 149 definitely mentally affected his style a bit but I saw him breaking through it a bit when he was wrestling free. He'll have all next season to work on it as well. He is a bit of a head case IMO. He seemed so excited he was able to move around his opponents easier that he suddenly started to bully D'Emilio by just pushing him out over and over (and he did it 5 times in a half) Before you know it, he gave up a TD and then 4 and lost. Still has a long way to go and agreed you can't pencil him in the Top 8 but the opportunity is there. You're correct, he's always going to be a win 5-3 kind of guy. At 141, he'll be able to do that more than lose especially since that class is open after Matthews and Woods IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swayz 163 Report post Posted June 17 On 6/7/2022 at 8:58 PM, flyingcement said: 125 Spencer Lee, Iowa Michael DeAugustino, Northwestern Patrick McKee, Minnesota Brandon Courtney, Arizona State Eric Barnett, Wisconsin Brandon Kaylor, Oregon State Matt Ramos, Purdue Anthony Noto, Lock Haven 133 Roman Bravo-Young, Penn State Daton Fix, Oklahoma State Nic Bouzakis, Ohio State Vito Arujau, Cornell Lucas Byrd, Illinois Patrick Glory, Princeton Michael McGee, Arizona State Dylan Ragusin, Michigan 141 Cole Matthews, Pittsburgh Real Woods, Iowa C.J. Composto, Penn Lachlan McNeil, North Carolina Dom Demas, Cal Poly Andrew Alirez, Northern Colorado Jake Bergeland, Minnesota Casey Swiderski, Iowa State 149 Yianni Diakomihalis, Cornell Austin Gomez, Wisconsin Ridge Lovett, Nebraska Sammy Sasso, Ohio State Kyle Parco, Arizona State Brock Mauller, Missouri Caleb Henson, Virginia Tech Max Murin, Iowa 157 Ed Scott, North Carolina State Bryce Andonian, Virginia Tech Quincy Monday, Princeton Austin O'Connor, North Carolina Mitchell Mesenbrink, Cal Baptist Jacori Teemer, Arizona State Brayton Lee, Minnesota Josh Humphreys, Lehigh 165 Keegan O'Toole, Missouri Shane Griffith, Stanford David Carr, Iowa State Dean Hamiti, Wisconsin Cameron Amine, Michigan Carson Kharchla, Ohio State Peyton Hall, West Virginia Julian Ramirez, Cornell 174 Mekhi Lewis, Virginia Tech Carter Starocci, Penn State Dustin Plott, Oklahoma State Mikey Labriola, Nebraska Ethan Smith, Ohio State Mickey O'Malley, Drexel Lance Runyon, Northern Iowa Gerrit Nijenhuis, Oklahoma 184 Aaron Brooks, Penn State Parker Keckeisen, Northern Iowa Bernie Truax, Cal Poly Trent Hidlay, North Carolina State Marcus Coleman, Iowa State Jon Loew, Cornell Trey Munoz, Oregon State Abe Assad, Iowa 197 Michael Beard, Lehigh Max Dean, Penn State AJ Ferrari, Oklahoma State Yonger Bastida, Iowa State Isaac Trumble, North Carolina State Jacob Warner, Iowa Stephen Buchanan, Wyoming Ethan Laird, Rider 285 Gable Steveson, Minnesota Cohlton Schultz, Arizona State Tony Cassioppi, Iowa Greg Kerkvliet, Penn State Mason Parris, Michigan Lucas Davison, Northwestern Wyatt Hendrickson, Air Force Joe Doyle, Binghamton Any truth that Gregor might be joining brother Lachlan at UNC? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED 109 Report post Posted June 18 I thought Lehigh's Humphries (157) was gone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorenomore 104 Report post Posted June 20 I would add to transfers to Oklahoma; Wyatt Henson and Mosha Schwartz. 133 Roman Bravo-Young, Penn State Daton Fix, Oklahoma State Nic Bouzakis, Ohio State Vito Arujau, Cornell Lucas Byrd, Illinois Michael McGee, Arizona State Dylan Ragusin, Michigan Wyatt Henson, Oklahoma 141 Cole Matthews, Pittsburgh Real Woods, Iowa C.J. Composto, Penn Lachlan McNeil, North Carolina Mosha Schwartz, Oklahoma Dom Demas, Cal Poly Andrew Alirez, Northern Colorado Casey Swiderski, Iowa State Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingcement 917 Report post Posted June 20 On 6/17/2022 at 1:09 PM, Swayz said: Any truth that Gregor might be joining brother Lachlan at UNC? I'm afraid I don't know much about his brother actually. I had only recently become aware of how impressive Lachlan has been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swayz 163 Report post Posted June 21 21 hours ago, flyingcement said: I'm afraid I don't know much about his brother actually. I had only recently become aware of how impressive Lachlan has been. 2nd Prep Nationals 2021 6th Prep Nationals 2020 for Wyoming Seminary. I think he may have done a Post Grad year this past season. 1 flyingcement reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bardamu911 89 Report post Posted June 22 On 6/15/2022 at 9:14 AM, TBar1977 said: Levi Haines is definitely an AA contender if he wrestles next year. does this mean if he doesn't redshirt next year? why wouldn't he wrestle next year? is he injured or something I haven't heard about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,611 Report post Posted June 22 7 hours ago, Bardamu911 said: does this mean if he doesn't redshirt next year? why wouldn't he wrestle next year? is he injured or something I haven't heard about? Only the staff knows who the starting line up will be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,175 Report post Posted June 22 7 hours ago, Bardamu911 said: does this mean if he doesn't redshirt next year? why wouldn't he wrestle next year? is he injured or something I haven't heard about? He wouldn't wrestle because it doesn't look like they'll need him to win it. That's really the only reason, and saving his eligibility could be useful down the line. He might wrestle because he's ready to compete, and perhaps Cael & co. would like to increase their margin for error a bit. It remains to be seen if any team can mount a respectable challenge. Apparently he can compete attached this year in 5 events anyway, so they should be able to find out exactly where he's at and make a decision closer to go time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites