Specops76 1 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 JB tweeted today that he is going to Sochi Russia for a training camp and then off to Armenia for a tournament. Does anyone know what tournament this would be and, more importantly, why would he want to compete in what I assume is a second tier tourney so close to the world championships? Doesn't the injury risk outweigh the tune up opportunity? I would think this would be a better opportunity for someone like Dake wouldn't it? A chance to cut his teeth on international competition without having to face top tier opponents in every match like a world championship? Would someone like Tsargush be wrestling in this tourney since he won't be at worlds? Just wondering if anyone knows anything about this tournament. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jstock 125 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 I don't know what tournament this is but it would be great if we could send the top 2 and in some weights top 4. Keep the guys on the ladder engaged and continue to get experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tec87 349 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 This should be the tournament he is talking about. http://www.fila-official.com/images/FIL ... nadzor.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specops76 1 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Thanks for the link tec. Looks like Russia and Iran will have representatives, i'll be interested to see who they send. Only one guy per weight per country is kind of a bummer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specops76 1 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Thanks for the link tec. Looks like Russia and Iran will have representatives, i'll be interested to see who they send. Only one guy per weight per country is kind of a bummer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tech_fall 3 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 JB just wants the easy 3k prize money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsnej 199 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 JB just wants the easy 3k prize money not bad pay for a weekend's work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 3,004 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Kudos to JB for staying active and constantly trying to improve. That is the mentality that has allowed him to progress at record pace. I totally disagree that the risk outweighs the reward. The risk is that he loses an insignificant tournament. The reward is that he gets even better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Will Trollster complain when he wins comfortably? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Education 24 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 I think it's great Burroughs is going to compete in Armenia. I don't think the tournament heightens his risk of injury. He's at risk of being injured every day he trains. It comes with the territory. What I am concerned about is his new fixed gear bike (those bikes are often called "fixies"). https://twitter.com/alliseeisgold/statu ... 01/photo/1 Fixies are tough to control, especially if they don't have breaks. It looks like his has breaks, so that's good. But still, when you go downhill, the pedals automatically speed up and if you want to slow down you have to fight against them. That's not good when people or cars or other hazards might be at the bottom of the hill. And if you're not used to what it takes to speed up and slow down, they are tough to navigate around things, such as ordinary traffic. This bike, much more than the tournament, increases his risk of injury. Wasn't Caldwell's career ended by a roller-blading injury? I hope we don't see something similar with Burroughs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glane18 73 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 If you avoid competition because you are afraid of getting hurt, then you are probably doing more damage than good. I think it's great for him to get this tournament in. One nice little physical and mental tune up for the World championships in September. The travel, getting matches in, timing in, etc. is all good for him. About 2 months out seems far away, but I'm sure it's good for all of his training right now to compete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_on_one 121 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Great decision by Jordan! Time wise, he is virtually a rookie on the international scene, albeit a very accomplished rookie. The more he can compete with top level competition, the better he will get. When all is said and done, what people will remember is how many world and Olympic titles this stud wins. John and Ben Peterson competed all the time, and lost a lot of matches. Yet they are both remembered for the Olympic gold and Silver they both won in 72 and 76. Keep improving Jordan so you can dominate when it counts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matburn155 3 Report post Posted July 17, 2013 The more matches he can get under the new rules, before worlds, the better. That 3 grand cash prize is pretty nice too, for what will probably be an easy tournament for Burroughs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josefsmoe 43 Report post Posted July 20, 2013 I think it's great Burroughs is going to compete in Armenia. I don't think the tournament heightens his risk of injury. He's at risk of being injured every day he trains. It comes with the territory. What I am concerned about is his new fixed gear bike (those bikes are often called "fixies"). https://twitter.com/alliseeisgold/statu ... 01/photo/1 Fixies are tough to control, especially if they don't have breaks. It looks like his has breaks, so that's good. But still, when you go downhill, the pedals automatically speed up and if you want to slow down you have to fight against them. That's not good when people or cars or other hazards might be at the bottom of the hill. And if you're not used to what it takes to speed up and slow down, they are tough to navigate around things, such as ordinary traffic. This bike, much more than the tournament, increases his risk of injury. Wasn't Caldwell's career ended by a roller-blading injury? I hope we don't see something similar with Burroughs. Couldn't agree with you more. Riding a bike is dangerous. They should make them illegal for children and if they are caught riding them they should be forced to play video games. I also hope Jordan has a helmet on while watching TV, a back brace during his morning bowel movement, and I hope his girlfriend understands when he tells her he must avoid the dangers of cooking and housework. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jstock 125 Report post Posted July 20, 2013 Who else is on the US team? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,605 Report post Posted July 20, 2013 Josefsmoe, you caught the key point of the "fixie" didn't you? http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws ... ixie+bikes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,261 Report post Posted July 20, 2013 That bike has serious swag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josefsmoe 43 Report post Posted July 20, 2013 Josefsmoe, you caught the key point of the "fixie" didn't you? http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws ... ixie+bikes Of course I didn't miss his point. Didn't you see what I said, "Riding a bike is dangerous." I'm just glad that the man with the most explosive legs we have seen on an American wrestler, perhaps, ever, has people on this message board shining a light on the flaws in his training. I just hope he is reading this, or maybe he just has the internet and can read how dangerous riding a bike is. I mean it's only fair for me to admit, I once was riding a bike almost like Jordan's and my foot slipped off the peddle on a hill and I got a scratch on my leg that hurt for 15 min. I will never try that again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Education 24 Report post Posted July 21, 2013 Josefsmoe, you caught the key point of the "fixie" didn't you? http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws ... ixie+bikes Of course I didn't miss his point. Didn't you see what I said, "Riding a bike is dangerous." I'm just glad that the man with the most explosive legs we have seen on an American wrestler, perhaps, ever, has people on this message board shining a light on the flaws in his training. I just hope he is reading this, or maybe he just has the internet and can read how dangerous riding a bike is. I mean it's only fair for me to admit, I once was riding a bike almost like Jordan's and my foot slipped off the peddle on a hill and I got a scratch on my leg that hurt for 15 min. I will never try that again. Fixies are dangerous. They are especially dangerous for those who have little or no experience with them. If you don't believe me, try riding one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_on_one 121 Report post Posted July 21, 2013 So, if this tournament is happening on August 2-4 1. Who are the US team members besides Jordan? 2. Why does the upcoming events section of USA wrestling not list anything under International events? I can't find a word about this tournament outside of the link on this thread. Once again, wrestling events are the some of best kept secrets there are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acadia 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2013 So the results? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_on_one 121 Report post Posted July 22, 2013 August 2,3,4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,096 Report post Posted July 22, 2013 USA Wrestling calendar is for USA Wrestling sanctioned events, not FILA ones. The only thing the FILA site has really ever done well is posted the FILA-sanctioned events. It's on the left side under "calendar" and select Olympic styles. This is the event the U.S. was going to send Henry Cejudo to, but he never arrived. His coaching staff, however, did. From this year's event info sheet: The following teams will participate in the Cup: Armenia, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Germany, France, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, IR of Iran, Iraq, Russia, Uzbekistan, Greece, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Italy, Turkey, Poland, Bulgaria, USA, China. This one isn't really regarded as a second-rate tournament. It's not on the level as the Golden Grand Prix's, but it's pretty legit. Armenia has a very proud wrestling tradition ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 586 Report post Posted July 22, 2013 Thanks Jason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two_on_one 121 Report post Posted July 23, 2013 Thanks Jason. Here is the direct link. http://www.fila-official.com/index.php? ... 64&lang=en It does seem odd that USA wrestling is sending our premiere wrestler to a high level international tournament and there is no information about it whatsoever on their site. It seems like a link to the tournament and who else is going would take about 3 minutes of time to post on their site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites