headshuck 2,626 Report post Posted August 15, 2013 Jake Dietchler was a high school Olympian recently. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Deitchler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pushout 0 Report post Posted August 15, 2013 hows his college career going? Mr Dietchler was a VERY rare exception to be sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCGrappler 44 Report post Posted August 15, 2013 I wasn't suggesting any impropriety. I was just pointing out that he is older than a teammate who is already a 2x All-American. He might not want to graduate college at 26 years old. Regardless if he is going to stick with wrestling or go MMA or go into the workforce, 26 is a little on the late side to get started. As others have pointed out, the track record of guys who took 2 years off (for wrestling related, as opposed to military or religion) before starting isn't that stellar. I personally think there is only so long you can wrestle for before it starts to get on you mentally and/or physically. He is a remarkable wrestler, but he also has worn a lot of tread off the tire before wrestling his first college match. I would think he is better off starting as soon as he can. If he redshirts, he will wrestle his first match at the same age where Kyle Dake was already a 3x NCAA champ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ban_basketball 16 Report post Posted August 15, 2013 hows his college career going? Mr Dietchler was a VERY rare exception to be sure. However, the reason why he's not wrestling in college any longer is unrelated to your point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted September 14, 2013 Hofstra 125 Jaime Franco 133 Jamel Hudson/Maverick Passaro 141 Luke Vaith 149 Cam Tessari/Cody Ruggirello 157 Nick Terdick 165 Joe Booth/Frank Affronti 174 Jermaine John/Frank Affronti 184 Dwight Howes 197 Tarahs Luhznyy 285 Mike Hughes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stove_Pipe 15 Report post Posted September 14, 2013 ^^Hofstra is one of my favorite teams. I guess I would comment, after seeing the above projection, that here mid Sept I still have NOT heard that either Booth or Luzhny have gotten waivers from the NCAA to compete this coming season. Also, I believe that Cam Tessari is rehabbing this fall, so I'd expect Cody Ruggirello will start and could turn into a situation where 2014 would be good year to RS Tessari. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 436 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 Iowa 125 - Clark/Gilman 4th 133 - Ramos 1st 141 - Dziewa 7th 149 - ??? big unknown Kelly (possible wt issues) Cooper (extracurrilar issues). Cooper has higher potential, could be 3rd 157 - St J 1st 165 - Moore 6th 174 - Evans 3rd 184 - Lofthouse 3rd 197 - Burak 7th Hwt - Telford 3rd My overly optimistic scenario could have Iowa with 2 champs and possibly 10 AA's. Clark/Gilman ceiling is no lower than 1st. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 340 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 125) Lambert (rfr) He was the best at this weight last year, including Nagel. 133) Morgan (rfr) Looking forward to seeing Gordy's son. 141) Abidin, Anthony (so) 149) McCauley (fr) or Sueflohn (jr) One of them shirts. I was hoping Jake could make 141 but no way. 157) Green (jr) 165) Wilson (rso) will be pushed hard by Wilbourn (rjr) 174) Kokesh (rjr) 184) Dudley (rfr) or Downey (fr) 197) Johnson (rjr), backed by Kolb (rsr) both are better than the 184 lbers. hvy) Jensen (rfr) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
926 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 125) Lambert (rfr) He was the best at this weight last year, including Nagel.133) Morgan (rfr) Looking forward to seeing Gordy's son. 141) Abidin, Anthony (so) 149) McCauley (fr) or Sueflohn (jr) One of them shirts. I was hoping Jake could make 141 but no way. 157) Green (jr) 165) Wilson (rso) will be pushed hard by Wilbourn (rjr) 174) Kokesh (rjr) 184) Dudley (rfr) or Downey (fr) 197) Johnson (rjr), backed by Kolb (rsr) both are better than the 184 lbers. hvy) Jensen (rfr) Word is that Lambert outgrew 25 last spring. Kolb beat Johnson 9-2 in a tournament and something like 15-2 in the room prior to that tournament...what makes you think Johnson has closed that big of a gap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 ^^Hofstra is one of my favorite teams. I guess I would comment, after seeing the above projection, that here mid Sept I still have NOT heard that either Booth or Luzhny have gotten waivers from the NCAA to compete this coming season. Also, I believe that Cam Tessari is rehabbing this fall, so I'd expect Cody Ruggirello will start and could turn into a situation where 2014 would be good year to RS Tessari. I agree with you I am a big Ruggirello fan but don't see him beating Cam I also heard Cody will be the starter 1st semester and Cam will take over come 2nd semester you are also right about Booth and Luhzny still waiting on that its close though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dtl38 79 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 Nebraska 125: Lambert 133: Abidin 141: T. Galloway 149: McCauley 157: Green 165: M. Barnes 174: Kokesh 184: Downey 197:Dudley Hwt: Johnson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
926 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 Huskers (might as well have one more guess...) 25- montoya (nq, transfer) 33- lambert 41- abidin 49- mcauley (sueflohn redshirts) 57- green 65- wilson (went 3-2 at ncaa's, wilbourn is tough but if he couldn't take the spot last year he won't take it this year after wilson got in nearly 50 matches last season) 74- kokesh 84- dudley (downey redshirts) 97- kolb 285- jensen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigApple 86 Report post Posted September 15, 2013 After the OU Wrestling Orientation and later the Alumni Dinner (3 weeks later), this is what I know about OU's lineup. 125 Jared Patterson RS Sr He is much bigger than previous years 133 Cody Brewer RS So 141 Nick Lester RS Sr (weighed in at 147 several times last year, finally at his best weight class 149 Kendric Maple RS SR 157 Justin DeAngelis RS JR 165 Clark Glass RS FR 174 Andrew Howe RS SR 184 The starters here haven't even been mentioned yet. 194 Travis Russ RS SR 285 Ross Larson RS FR Flores who wrestled at American for Cody is now a member of the Sooner Wrestling Club, he'll be trying to make the world team at 209/211. He'll make a good workout partner for Rutt and Larson. There is a 285 pound transfer from Cal Baptist that I believe was 2nd in NAIA. Sanja who was at American is also in the Sooner Wrestling Club. Reportedly DeAngelis and Glass are getting pushed by freshmen in practice, that weren't expected to present a challenge. There is finally sufficient depth of talent in the room for decent challenges in the ranking matches. Patterson, Brewer, Lester, Maple, Howe and Rutt are all bonfafide AA's with 2 maybe 3 finalists. Larson was a 3-sport star at Ankeny, Iowa, he'll be 240-250 very agile, about 6-2. I'll be interested how he performs. Cody is a very good big man coach, and there are now a lot of quality upper weight workout partners. I think there maybe one more AA (low out of 157, 165 or 285). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 340 Report post Posted September 16, 2013 Nebraska125: Lambert 133: Abidin 141: T. Galloway 149: McCauley 157: Green 165: M. Barnes 174: Kokesh 184: Downey 197:Dudley Hwt: Johnson If Barnes can make the cut I'm with you on 165. 197 is Johnson or Kolb though. They have too much talent to be pushed aside by a rfr 184 lber, even as good as he is. If Lambert can't make 125 now then they redshirt him last year? Why have your best wrestler on the bench to start the 2nd string true frosh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dtl38 79 Report post Posted September 17, 2013 Nebraska125: Lambert 133: Abidin 141: T. Galloway 149: McCauley 157: Green 165: M. Barnes 174: Kokesh 184: Downey 197:Dudley Hwt: Johnson If Barnes can make the cut I'm with you on 165. 197 is Johnson or Kolb though. They have too much talent to be pushed aside by a rfr 184 lber, even as good as he is. If Lambert can't make 125 now then they redshirt him last year? Why have your best wrestler on the bench to start the 2nd string true frosh?[/quote My belief is that Lambert will make 125 this year and he needed to red shirt last year. Unless he has really grown in the last few months he isn't big enough to wrestle 133. I've heard that Johnson has gotten bigger and it will be between him and Jensen for the spot at Hwt. 197 could easily be Kolb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stove_Pipe 15 Report post Posted September 17, 2013 ^^If there is any Campbell Univ wrestling insider reading this string, I very much would like help on the Campbell starting lineup projection for 2014. Thank you and here is my GUESS- 125 Incoming frosh twins from PA Drew and Tyler Walker. 133 Tanner Bidelspach (Sr/PA). 141 Michael Dahlstrom (So/PA) with Jordan Tolbert (Jr/MD) helping out. Assume incoming frosh Dyon Santiago (2X NM champ) might RS? 149 Could be soph Cory Wagner. Is Duke-transfer Brent Jorge still on the team and aiming to compete fifth year? 157 Open? (Rex at Ariz State). 165 Paul Duggan (Jr/NC). 174 Cody Ryba (So/OH) and Taylor McGriffin (So/IL)? 184 James Cook (Jr/CA). 197 Jacob Laden (Clackamas CC transfer). 285 Joe Nolan (Jr/NJ). Would appreciate help on this – I am not a Campbell insider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartan 3 Report post Posted September 18, 2013 This is just a guess on the Michigan State line up for this year. There should be some battles in the room at the lower weights. I believe most of the upper weights are set. This is also assuming that they redshirt Nick Trimble and Jordan Wohlfert. Both started last year as true freshmen. 125 - Garth Yenter 133 - Brandon Fifield 141 - Brian Gibbs 149 - Roger Wildmo 157 - Ryan Watts 165 - Bobby Nash 174 - Nick Kaczanowski 184 - John Rizquallah 197 - Luke Jones 285 - Mike McClure You also have Brennan Lyon and Hermilo Esquivel at 125. Terry Turner and 133, Esquivel could also slide in here. Once again, just a guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wire 23 Report post Posted September 22, 2013 This is just a guess on the Michigan State line up for this year. There should be some battles in the room at the lower weights. I believe most of the upper weights are set. This is also assuming that they redshirt Nick Trimble and Jordan Wohlfert. Both started last year as true freshmen. 125 - Garth Yenter 133 - Brandon Fifield 141 - Brian Gibbs 149 - Roger Wildmo 157 - Ryan Watts 165 - Bobby Nash 174 - Nick Kaczanowski 184 - John Rizquallah 197 - Luke Jones 285 - Mike McClure You also have Brennan Lyon and Hermilo Esquivel at 125. Terry Turner and 133, Esquivel could also slide in here. Once again, just a guess. Josh Heinzer ?? Is he still on the team? No new roster posted yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartan 3 Report post Posted September 23, 2013 I believe he is still in school, but do not believe he has been at the preseason workouts. Not sure what's up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OkieChippewa 32 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Central Michigan's possible lineup 125 Corey Keener (FR) 133 Joe Roth (SR) 141 Zach Horan (SO) 149 Scott Mattingly (SR) 157 Lucas Smith (SO) 165 Nick Becker (FR)/Hunter Rollins (FR) 174 Mike Ottinger (JR) 184 Craig Kelliher (SR) 197 Dalton Ishmael (FR) 285 Mike Murray (SR) update 10/10: looks like Roth is moving on up to 133 this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckeyebison 87 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Ohio State Buckeyes 125- Nick Roberts - NQ 133- Johnni DiJulius - AA 141- Logan Stieber - NC 149- Ian Paddock - AA 157- Derek Garcia (He's still on roster...) - AA 165- Joshua Demas - AA 174- Mark Martin - AA 184- Kenny Courts - AA 197- Nick Heflin - AA HWT- Nick Tavanello - NQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ban_basketball 16 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Central Michigan's possible lineup 125 Joe Roth (SR) 133 Tyler Keselring (JR) 141 Zach Horan (SO) 149 Scott Mattingly (SR) 157 Lucas Smith (SO) 165 Nick Becker (FR)/Hunter Rollins (FR) 174 Mike Ottinger (JR) 184 Craig Kelliher (SR) 197 Dalton Ishmael (FR) 285 Mike Murray (SR) Probably good for me, being a UNI fan, but it looks like a little rebuilding is going on this year, right? I'm not sold on it, but, apparently, UNI is forecasted to win the MAC this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sludgeworth 48 Report post Posted October 7, 2013 Central Michigan's possible lineup 125 Joe Roth (SR) 133 Tyler Keselring (JR) 141 Zach Horan (SO) 149 Scott Mattingly (SR) 157 Lucas Smith (SO) 165 Nick Becker (FR)/Hunter Rollins (FR) 174 Mike Ottinger (JR) 184 Craig Kelliher (SR) 197 Dalton Ishmael (FR) 285 Mike Murray (SR) The MAC should be nicely competitive. UNI looks solid. CMU is always game. Missouri is probably the most solid top-to-bottom program in the conference. Kent State returns Ian Miller and Tyler Small from redshirt and adds Edinboro transfer Michael DePalma. The Ohio Bobcats are also not too far away with young NCAA qualifiers in Kevon Powell and Spartak Chino joining Cody Walters, Jeremy Johnson, and Phil Wellington. Old Dominion joins the conference this year. It should be an interesting race. Probably good for me, being a UNI fan, but it looks like a little rebuilding is going on this year, right? I'm not sold on it, but, apparently, UNI is forecasted to win the MAC this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
