cmsu34 16 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 Any word on if Notre Dame will have to add or drop any sports when they move to the ACC? Be great if they added wrestling, but I'm not holding my breath. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickyTheEar 15 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 In addition to that, I would love to see Syracuse resurrect their program as well since they are moving into the ACC along with Pitt. They had seven national championship wrestlers, 34 All-Americans and five Olympic wrestlers. It was sad to see the program get the ax in 2001 considering it was a fairly successful program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFHawk86 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 It's hard to believe that ND passed up an opportunity to join the B1G and now they're heading to ACC... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalvatoreG 2 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 The ACC is on par with the Big ten on so many levels (wrestling not included obviously) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFHawk86 0 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 The ACC is on par with the Big ten on so many levels (wrestling not included obviously) I disagree. With the exception of basketball they are not on par with the B1G. This includes academics. Besides, the B1G has much better revenue sharing and ND's football glory has long since passed. Once their current contract runs out they'll be scrambling for dollars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyJoey 25 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 The ACC is on par with the Big ten on so many levels (wrestling not included obviously) I disagree. With the exception of basketball they are not on par with the B1G. This includes academics. Besides, the B1G has much better revenue sharing and ND's football glory has long since passed. Once their current contract runs out they'll be scrambling for dollars. Academics? Schools ranked in US News Top 10: ACC 1 (Duke), Big 10 (none) Top 25: ACC 3 (Duke, Notre Dame, UVA), Big 10 1 (Northwestern) Top 40: ACC 6 (Duke, ND, UVA, UNC, BC, Ga. Tech) Big 10 2 (Northwestern, Michigan) Top 50 ACC 7 (above plus Miami), Big 10 5 (above plus Illinois, Wisconsin and Penn State) So the ACC has more schools ranked in the Top 10, Top 25, Top 40 and Top 50. Saying the ACC is not "on par" academically is ignorant. There are 3x more ACC schools than Big 10 schools ranked in the Top 40. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 I think it is all about the $! They see they have an opportunity to improve their non-football sports while maintaining their lucrative TV contract all to themselves. I suspect that they might even include football once their TV $ decrreases due to being non relavent nationally. lets see 5 acc teams along with the service accademies and they need 10 wins to get an BCS game I believe......life is good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsnc471 25 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 So the ACC has more schools ranked in the Top 10, Top 25, Top 40 and Top 50. Saying the ACC is not "on par" academically is ignorant. There are 3x more ACC schools than Big 10 schools ranked in the Top 40. You are correct. The Big Ten might be "on par", but if so then the ACC is shooting well under par. The academic reputation of the top schools in the ACC is excellent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJWC 305 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 I believe that UVA is the top public college in the country (perhaps second to Berkeley?). Duke, Ga Tech, UNC, BC...all outstanding universities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplefan 2 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 The recent brewhaha at UVA gave them a black eye, but they are still very good. Isn't Wake Forest in the ACC? No wrestling but good academics. Some of these Southern schools have come a long way from the 1950s. Congrats to Notre Dame. How about adding wrestling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRfan1 152 Report post Posted September 13, 2012 The ACC is on par with the Big ten on so many levels (wrestling not included obviously) I disagree. With the exception of basketball they are not on par with the B1G. This includes academics. Besides, the B1G has much better revenue sharing and ND's football glory has long since passed. Once their current contract runs out they'll be scrambling for dollars. Academics? Schools ranked in US News Top 10: ACC 1 (Duke), Big 10 (none) Top 25: ACC 3 (Duke, Notre Dame, UVA), Big 10 1 (Northwestern) Top 40: ACC 6 (Duke, ND, UVA, UNC, BC, Ga. Tech) Big 10 2 (Northwestern, Michigan) Top 50 ACC 7 (above plus Miami), Big 10 5 (above plus Illinois, Wisconsin and Penn State) So the ACC has more schools ranked in the Top 10, Top 25, Top 40 and Top 50. Saying the ACC is not "on par" academically is ignorant. There are 3x more ACC schools than Big 10 schools ranked in the Top 40. Conferences usually use research university rankings/ratings as guide (such as Carnegie Mellon ratings), not those of a magazine. US News is completely and totally irrelevant to discussion any university administration or conference admin would have regarding the topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyJoey 25 Report post Posted September 13, 2012 The US News rankings certainly aren't perfect, but they are pretty good and absolutely well regarded. Top 40 WRESTLING (D1 only) teams by league: EIWA: Harvard, Princeton Columbia, Penn, Brown, Cornell, Lehigh ACC: Duke, UVA, UNC Big 10: Northwestern, Michigan Pac 12: Stanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsnc471 25 Report post Posted September 13, 2012 Conferences usually use research university rankings/ratings as guide (such as Carnegie Mellon ratings), not those of a magazine. US News is completely and totally irrelevant to discussion any university administration or conference admin would have regarding the topic. 100 percent false. It's true that there are many other metrics that are used to rate/rank universities, but your statement that US News rankings are irrelevant to university administrators is absolutely false. In fact, the US News rankings have become very important among university administrators, because, love them or hate them (and there are many problems with the US News rankings), they have become a fixture of American society and the US News rankings are one of the primary ways in which the general public views universities. This is important because this is how potential students and their parents view the universities, so even though administrators like to give the party line of "US News is only one of many facets, and we believe there are many other important metrics you must look at, bla bla bla"........the fact is the public perception of prestige is one of the most important things on the minds of administrators and university presidents, so the rankings actually do matter, even though they have some issues. And to be sure, if you look at the US News rankings of the top 40 universities, you might quibble with the exact order in which they are ranked (which is rather capricious from year to year) but those 40 universities are widely regarded as extremely prestigious by just about everyone, so US News is getting some things right. And whenever the US News rankings come out, almost every university president of schools ranked in the top 40 will comment on them in a newsletter, whether in a positive or negative light. Point is, they are widely talked about among administrators, even among those who don't like the rankings. Bottom line, the top academic schools of the ACC are among the best in the country. A very fine group indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
