wessegar 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Who wins? Im taking Stieber 6-3 w.s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuskyHero133 52 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Steiber 4-3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigApple 86 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Maple's length will pose a problem for Logan who doesn't have very good steups in neutral. On the mat Maple hasn't wrestled anyone as tough as Logan. Logan has not wrestled someone who can ride like Maple. If the Maple escapes without getting turned he wins, if he gets turned he loses. I'll pick Maple 4-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josefsmoe 43 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Maple's length will pose a problem for Logan who doesn't have very good steups in neutral. On the mat Maple hasn't wrestled anyone as tough as Logan. Logan has not wrestled someone who can ride like Maple. If the Maple escapes without getting turned he wins, if he gets turned he loses. I'll pick Maple 4-2. I agree with most of this, just two points of issue: 1. I got Stieber 6-2 2. Saying that Logan doesn't have good setups in neutral is crazy talk. I will agree that he will frequently takes shots with little or no setup, but he rarely puts himself in bad position while doing so and it keeps constant pressure on his opponent. If the match was about stalling and just getting one takedown you would see that Logan's setups are fantastic. But, the name of the game for Logan is big scoring and he does this by shooting and shooting often. Then he attempts to rip your arms out of their sockets. Maple's top ability should create a challenge for Logan. If it doesn't this match is not close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted October 4, 2013 Maple 8-5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smittyfan 42 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Two studs. What a treat! In my opinion it depends on a few things. I just wish, it counted on their records, and they were both in mid season shape. Oliver was one year older than Maple. Maple is one year older than Stieber. I put this Stieber kid waaaaaaaaay up on the list of all-time greats. Something doesn't feel right with me having Oliver/Maple/Stieber all moving up the list of all time greats over the last two seasons. When you start talking about the top 150 all time, you usually don't get 6 of those in the same NCAA Championships! Dake, Ruth, Taylor, Oliver, Stieber, Maple... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matburn155 3 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Maple 3-1 in OT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Stieber will win in controversy, just like his two NCAA finals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 379 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 While it is true that Maple's size and ability will pose a problem, but Logan has beat some of the best including Jordan Oliver, so I say Logan will squeak out a win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wessegar 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Stieber will win in controversy, just like his two NCAA finals. what controversy? changed my mind Stieber 7-2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 448 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 ..........maple 5-3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKHUNTER 316 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 plenty of controversy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,626 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Why do some of the Hawkeyes refer to Logan as "Steebler?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,041 Report post Posted October 5, 2013 Why do some of the Hawkeyes refer to Logan as "Steebler?" As near as I can tell it's some kind of localized meme because a poster on HawkeyeReport got the name so wrong when writing it in a post, and a bunch of them thought it was funny and have stuck with it. JUst some harmless fun, I think. Or it might be something Mudflap said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucksfan 67 Report post Posted October 6, 2013 Correct me if im wrong but doesnt Stieber have to weigh in at 141 or 142 even though the match is officially labled the 149 bout? Something to do with regulations or something as he is wrestling the season at 141? I heard that somewhere and just wanted to confirm either way. Should be a close one, 5-3 Stieber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuskyHero133 52 Report post Posted October 7, 2013 Correct me if im wrong but doesnt Stieber have to weigh in at 141 or 142 even though the match is officially labled the 149 bout? Something to do with regulations or something as he is wrestling the season at 141? I heard that somewhere and just wanted to confirm either way. Should be a close one, 5-3 Stieber That puts him at a big disadvantage if true. That might change my prediction if that is the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinnum 846 Report post Posted October 7, 2013 Correct me if im wrong but doesnt Stieber have to weigh in at 141 or 142 even though the match is officially labled the 149 bout? Something to do with regulations or something as he is wrestling the season at 141? I heard that somewhere and just wanted to confirm either way. Should be a close one, 5-3 Stieber That puts him at a big disadvantage if true. That might change my prediction if that is the case. It is my understanding that if he wishes to wrestle 141 at the next event he will have to weigh-in at a weight that will allow his weight loss chart to be at 141 by the next date. It reminds me of when Matt Brown wrestled at 174 a week after winning a match against Nebraska at 197. There were people that were saying he violated the rules since you have to follow the weight loss chart and can only bump up one weight. However Brown weighed in something like 174.2, which is over weight at 174 making it a 184 weigh in and able to bump up to 197, but is still acceptable weight loss to get back to 174 for the next dual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuskyHero133 52 Report post Posted October 7, 2013 If he has to weigh in at 141 and Maple at 149 I have to go with Maple instead of Steiber. Hes too good to lose with that big of a weight, size, and reach advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John L 10 Report post Posted October 7, 2013 They do have to follow the weight Managemnt progression rules. Both if these kids are putting it in the line and are great competitors. Have to give them and all those involved credit. It appears Logan is attempting to define himself similar to what Dake did last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John L 10 Report post Posted October 7, 2013 They do have to follow the weight Managemnt progression rules. Both if these kids are putting it in the line and are great competitors. Have to give them and all those involved credit. It appears Logan is attempting to define himself similar to what Dake did last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucksfan 67 Report post Posted October 8, 2013 it is my understanding that if he wishes to wrestle 141 at the next event he will have to weigh-in at a weight that will allow his weight loss chart to be at 141. This is what i heard. Sources close to Logan confirmed that he does indeed have to weigh in at 141 for this match. I dont think it will change the outcome. I wonder where Maples weight is at right now. If he is cutting down from 162-163....yeesh thats a tuffy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFHawk86 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2013 Same issue will effect Ramos as he's bumping up to 141 just for the All Star event. He'll have 3 weeks until the first competition so he could weigh in at ~138 and still wrestle 133. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted October 8, 2013 Given that we have Ramos v Carter and Stieber v Maple, why are we stuck with Moreno v Taylor? No disrespect to Moreno but he's not the same caliber as Taylor. Couldn't we have gotten Taylor v Perry instead? Wouldn't that have been more compelling? (of course they might have tried and failed...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,067 Report post Posted October 8, 2013 anyone else think STieber v mAPLE should be held at the STAPLEs center? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingofBing 12 Report post Posted October 8, 2013 I'd rather see it slotted at halftime of the Super Bowl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
