Logan Steiber will win the Hodge this year

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Can I get an AMEN?

[NJDan 1,073]

He is way ahead right now, but Taylor will have something to say, as will Ruth, unless either one loses or unless the voters hold Ruth's DWI against him.

[pjm46 83]

I got Ruth

[HuskyHero133 52]

Is there any history of off the mat activity keeping a wrestler from Hodge contention? I haven't heard of such a situation before....

 

Not that they will (or should) take it into account but you never know.

[superold 34]

I agree. At this point, Stieber is the overwhelming favorite to win the Hodge. I believe Ruth's DWI will eliminate him from the running.

[silver-medal 670]

If this season has shown us anything it's that upsets happen. In addition Logan has had the occasional clunker match. Should he win out and dominate--both distinct possibilities--then he will probably get it. Ruth's DUI works against him (it should) and Taylor, who is equally dominant, has less titles. Andrew Howe is the other name now in the running (he's already beaten Perry and Brown) but he's just not likely to match Logan's bonus total.

 

And, there's that little thing Logan's going after that only three guys have done.

[KingK0ng 175]

And the only one to get a reset after his freshman year.... it's between Stieber and Taylor at this point

[MadMardigain 1,603]

I know to most this is old news but the main criteria for the trophy is awarded is to be based on Record, pins, "dominance", Credentials, quality of competition, sportsmanship/citizenship, and "Heart." How all that gets put into the equation to determine the actual he winner is anyone's guess, but that is what is said to be looked for when evaluating candidates.

[PRyan2012 347]

I agree. I can't imagine anyone else in the running. Ruth is out so there is a huge gap between 2nd and 3rd guy. I like Steiber right now since he took a chance at the All star. Now if Taylor bumps up and takes on Howe Taylor has got my vote.

[smittyfan 42]

A commanding lead? I thought DT pins and techs everyone he sees. I don't know about Ruth, and his unique situation. Howe is very, very good, but he probably has the tougher field than any of the other three mentioned. If I was Maple, I'd go down to 41 for two primary reasons. One, there seems to be only one guy that can and not necessarily will beat him vs, about 6 guys at 49. The second reason is the potential to be mentioned along side Sooner Legend Mark Schultz for changing weights to match up with the best pfp guy. Not that he should beat the incredible Logan Stieber, but he sure has a better chance than anyone else at 41.

[wrestlingnerd 3,003]

DWI or no DWI, Logie Bear is the Hodge winner. I also think he is the best wrestler in the country.

[superold 34]

DWI or no DWI, Logie Bear is the Hodge winner. I also think he is the best wrestler in the country.

 

Me too. Stieber was every bit as good as I thought he would be coming out of HS. It's kind of amazing that I'm not in the least bit surprised that Logan is 2 for 2 at the ncaas. I kind of expected it.

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Here's how I rankem:

3. DT paws and toys with a mouse on in string for, what seems like hours. He sits down and watches when dake's in the room.

2. Ruth pounces on and devours the mouse. But quaffs it down with a bottle of whiskey before hanging out at Taco Bell.

1. Logan spins the mouse around in amazingly effortless ways before snapping if away.

[LoStNuMbEr 320]

I thought Logan was a distant third coming into this year but I've definitely been proven wrong. He has to be a dominating frontrunner at this point

[superold 34]

I thought Logan was a distant third coming into this year but I've definitely been proven wrong. He has to be a dominating frontrunner at this point

 

Why in the world would you think that Logan was a distant third?

[SetonHallPirate 990]

Logan Stieber was my vote last year, even over that four-time champion guy...

[superold 34]

Logan Stieber was my vote last year, even over that four-time champion guy...

 

 

Which is why a good argument could be made for you losing your Hodge voting privileges.

[lightweight 22]

Is there any history of off the mat activity keeping a wrestler from Hodge contention? I haven't heard of such a situation before....

 

Not that they will (or should) take it into account but you never know.

 

Sports Illustrated had an interesting piece about whether the FSU QB's date rape charge was going to affect the Heismann voting. Apparently there is some language there that could be interpreted to be about character. Don't know if there is anything similar in the Hodge description.

[wrestlingnerd 3,003]

Is there any history of off the mat activity keeping a wrestler from Hodge contention? I haven't heard of such a situation before....

 

Not that they will (or should) take it into account but you never know.

 

Sports Illustrated had an interesting piece about whether the FSU QB's date rape charge was going to affect the Heismann voting. Apparently there is some language there that could be interpreted to be about character. Don't know if there is anything similar in the Hodge description.

 

Hodge criteria: 1. Record 2. Number of pins 3. Dominance 4. Past credentials 5. Quality of competition 6. Sportsmanship/citizenship 7. Heart

 

Sorry, SHP, anyone who thought Dake didn't deserve it last year is not objective. He was the clear winner based on these criteria, and it was not close.

 

This year, however, it's between Stieber and Taylor. Ruth is completely out of the picture because anyone who drives drunk fails #6, period. Even if you get As on everything else, with an F on the report card, you're out.

 

Despite Taylor being a senior, Stieber has as many NCAA titles, including the most recent title between the two and an impeccable record at NCAAs. He's also coming off an undefeated season, whereas Taylor lost multiple times (albeit to one of the three best of all time). He also went up and beat the 149 lb pre-season #1, an NCAA champ from a higher weight. He also looks to be wrecking more much shop than Taylor, but up a weight. He also has a little better competition than Taylor at 165 this year, in my opinion, and significantly better if you include his win over Maple (which Hodge does consider even if it's an exhibition for official NCAA record purposes). They are dead even on sportsmanship/citizenship, truly two of the best kids to ever grace the mats in D1. I am a huge fan of both kids' characters. As for heart, it's hard to define what that really means, but I'd put both dead even on this last criterion.

 

I like Stieber because I think he'll run the table in as dominant a fashion as Taylor but record more pins, and he'll have the impeccable NCAA record to one-up Taylor.

[bwh27 31]

Here's how I rankem:

3. DT paws and toys with a mouse on in string for, what seems like hours. He sits down and watches when dake's in the room.

2. Ruth pounces on and devours the mouse. But quaffs it down with a bottle of whiskey before hanging out at Taco Bell.

1. Logan spins the mouse around in amazingly effortless ways before snapping if away.

 

I guess this is too smart for me? No clue what you're saying.

[potdangerous 26]

If Stieber goes undefeated, he wins the Hodge.

 

Of Taylor, Ruth, and Stieber, however, I think Stieber is most susceptible to defeat.

[pamela 1,334]

Do you think he's most susceptible because of his abilities, or do you think he has the toughest weight of the three? Just wondering.

 

Also, the nickname "Logie Bear" still makes me cringe! :?

[TBar1977 4,532]

FWIW, Taylor is 10-0 with 7 falls and 2 TF and a 20-7 major over Brian Brill, so he has 7 falls in 10 matches. Taylor also has the major over Moreno in the NWCA Classic.

 

I can only piece together Logan's record, but I think he has 6 falls in 8 matches. He also has the close win in TB over Maple in the NWCA Classic.

 

I don't think this is totally over just yet.

[silver-medal 670]

FWIW, Taylor is 10-0 with 7 falls and 2 TF and a 20-7 major over Brian Brill, so he has 7 falls in 10 matches. Taylor also has the major over Moreno in the NWCA Classic.

 

I can only piece together Logan's record, but I think he has 6 falls in 8 matches. He also has the close win in TB over Maple in the NWCA Classic.

 

I don't think this is totally over just yet.

 

On point.

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Not exactly on point. Past credentials is on the criteria. The hodge committee glossed over that one the last time they picked DT over another 3x champion (assuming Steiber wins ncaas), when all other things being equal.