Frank_Rizzo 341 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 One of the wildest matches I've ever seen. Grajales is gonna with the whole thing at 149 this year! 8-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,845 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 He's going to maybe win another matchup vs Alton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasden 54 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 No way! Grajales ONLY beat Alton because he completely gassed, he was getting hammered early. He ain't beating Maple or Houdeslelt. Grajales will AA, that's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 I don't even know what to say about that match. I'd like to see Beitz at 149 for PSU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 No way! Grajales ONLY beat Alton because he completely gassed, he was getting hammered early. He ain't beating Maple or Houdeslelt. Grajales will AA, that's all. Alton capitalized on Grajales' poor wrestling, and Grajales capitalized on Alton's poor wrestling. I wouldn't say that Grajales only won because Andrew "gassed". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OKnowwhut 59 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 I'm so confused :o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank_Rizzo 341 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 No way! Grajales ONLY beat Alton because he completely gassed, he was getting hammered early. He ain't beating Maple or Houdeslelt. Grajales will AA, that's all. Relax - joking! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasden 54 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 No way! Grajales ONLY beat Alton because he completely gassed, he was getting hammered early. He ain't beating Maple or Houdeslelt. Grajales will AA, that's all. Relax - joking! Hahaha. Hey man I'm upset, cut me some slack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 Would anyone here take issue with the Grajales/Alton match being called an "abomination"? Just curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 436 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 Would anyone here take issue with the Grajales/Alton match being called an "abomination"? Just curious. It was just SO fun though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,340 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 Would anyone here take issue with the Grajales/Alton match being called an "abomination"? Just curious. It looked like a gym class match Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 Would anyone here take issue with the Grajales/Alton match being called an "abomination"? Just curious. It was just SO fun though. I must admit that I was cracking up towards the end. :) It was bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,601 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 One of the wildest craziest matches I have ever seen. If Alton could wrestle 7 minutes like he wrestles the first 3 minutes then look out. Problem is, right now he can't. He is on fumes about as early as anyone I've seen in a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrambler 43 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 Battle of the gassers!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 924 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 It was only crazy because the red couldn't figure out that when two guys are completely separated that an escape should have been awarded. Grajales was robbed at least one ESC-TD (I think it may have been twice). Even Gibbons said the ref should expecting a call from Mike Allen within an hour after the dual is over. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutus81 4 Report post Posted February 2, 2014 One the one hand, I thought Alton wrestled well against an opponent who wouldn't be denied (BTW, if Grajales had wrestled very match of his career like that, he would have fulfilled people's lofty expectations for him coming out of HS, and would probably have been a national champ). On the other hand, it's disturbing (I'm even willing to say, disgusting) to see a Division 1 wrestler quit the way Alton did at the end. Clearly, Alton is more talented than Beitz. But Beitz is scrappier, and wants it more, and will only improve with time, and would never quit like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyThompsonnum1 102 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 Grajales will AA, that's all. That's all? That's all!?!? Could we possibly treat anything more significant with less significance? NCAA DI wrestling is as tough as it gets for folkstyle wrestling. It is the best of the best, and you say "that's it" as if it's not that big of a deal? As if calling yourself one of the top 8 in your weight class out of nearly 80 of the best guys in the entire country is no big deal? "That's all"????? Really? Wow. No wonder the mentality of so many is either win it all or go home. Sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasden 54 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 Grajales will AA, that's all. That's all? That's all!?!? Could we possibly treat anything more significant with less significance? NCAA DI wrestling is as tough as it gets for folkstyle wrestling. It is the best of the best, and you say "that's it" as if it's not that big of a deal? As if calling yourself one of the top 8 in your weight class out of nearly 80 of the best guys in the entire country is no big deal? "That's all"????? Really? Wow. No wonder the mentality of so many is either win it all or go home. Sad. The other poster stated that Grajales will win it all. I just stated Grajales will only AA, and I stand by what I said. AND as highly talented and heralded coming out of HS as Grajales was, honestly most will admit he has been a huge underachiever his college career. The kid is a nice kid and all, but quite honestly he is a RS senior and thus far has not lived up to his hype. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pennsyrules 222 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 I will just say that match was one of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen. If you've watched Alton since he was a kid, he's one of the most exciting wrestlers you will watch. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who tuned in primarly to watch the Alton's. I can definitely understand the criticizm of the conditioning but I'm still thinking he will surprise some doubters at the NCAA's. He still has time to work on the conditioning and he certainly has the skills to give people fits. I know that there are alot of posters who love to criticize the Altons'(only because they were very successful Pa wrestlers, I might add) but not only are they fun to watch, but win or lose, they seem like good kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 I really like watching A Alton when he is on his game. Alot of old school moves. I shouldnt, but I have grown to root against many PA wrestlers because of some of the arrogant PA posters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IRTYTKY 67 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 I will just say that match was one of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen. If you've watched Alton since he was a kid, he's one of the most exciting wrestlers you will watch. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who tuned in primarly to watch the Alton's. I can definitely understand the criticizm of the conditioning but I'm still thinking he will surprise some doubters at the NCAA's. He still has time to work on the conditioning and he certainly has the skills to give people fits. I know that there are alot of posters who love to criticize the Altons'(only because they were very successful Pa wrestlers, I might add) but not only are they fun to watch, but win or lose, they seem like good kids. Im not sure if they can surprise anyone because they are both supposed to be top 5 wrestlers. Gonna be awfully tough to finish above that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pennsyrules 222 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 Not if you read all the naysayers on this forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LehighGuy 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 The guy who won't win in the NCAAs is the ref. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,307 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 Is this match available anywhere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted February 3, 2014 I will just say that match was one of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen. If you've watched Alton since he was a kid, he's one of the most exciting wrestlers you will watch. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who tuned in primarly to watch the Alton's. I can definitely understand the criticizm of the conditioning but I'm still thinking he will surprise some doubters at the NCAA's. He still has time to work on the conditioning and he certainly has the skills to give people fits. I know that there are alot of posters who love to criticize the Altons'(only because they were very successful Pa wrestlers, I might add) but not only are they fun to watch, but win or lose, they seem like good kids. I'm in complete agreement with you.....every thing I have seen from them is class....win or lose they shake hands and move on! Easy to root for them so I have problems when people are ultra critical of them simply because they have had great success in HS and a PSU wrestlers who's fan base may have anointed them a bit too much for others. I have seen opposing wrestlers take cheap shots at them and only recently have I seen them even make a slight effort to retaliate. I'm also in agreement that AA's issue seems beyond gas tank issues. I almost want to see them take a blood test before and after a match.....anything. This situation is too weird. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
