Crusader2017 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Some results just poured in from Cuba 65 kg/143 lbs. - Aaron Pico, Whittier, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC), 2-0 record WIN Cuba, tech fall WIN Cuba, tech fall 97 kg/213 lbs. - Kyle Snyder, Colorado Springs, Colo. (Sunkist Kids/OTC), 2-0 record WIN Dhesi, Canada tech. fall WIN Cuba, tech fall Mind you, this is Junior Freestyle, but Pico seems to be the real deal. Kudos to Snyder as well, though his success isn't as impressive as Pico's given the age difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 333 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Why put these guys in Juniors? They both are amazing and can compete for the spot at the senior level now. Pico can beat Metcalf. Can he now, maybe not. Snyder can beat JD and Varner. Right now maybe not but surely will by 2016. These two are that good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 888 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 They're just easing him into the big stage. Getting him used to the bright lights and pressure of the event. Can he beat Metcalf right now? Not sure but I want to see it. Personally I think the OSU kid is a bigger threat to Pico. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckFor2 166 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 ease them in? these Jr matches they obviously may not have even broken a sweat.... should've sent them to Turkey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flwrestler14 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Last time I checked there is little age difference between the two, a year maybe even less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,571 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Why put these guys in Juniors? They both are amazing and can compete for the spot at the senior level now. Pico can beat Metcalf. Can he now, maybe not. Snyder can beat JD and Varner. Right now maybe not but surely will by 2016. These two are that good. He can surely beat Varner by 2016? Surely? There's a big difference between Varner and Metcalf. If Varner is fully healthy, he's still the man in 2016. I don't think it'll be that close in the US. Pico, maybe, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 888 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 ease them in? these Jr matches they obviously may not have even broken a sweat....should've sent them to Turkey I can't speak for Snider, but Pico's had one year of HS wrestling. Can't just throw him in there with the men right off the bat. Give the kid a break, he'll be on the senior level consistently in no time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 217 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 once again, slow down with these kids. lots can happen over the next few years of their development, good and bad. very few of the early bloomers reach expectations compared to the ones that don't. unneccessary pressure is usaully one of the reasons they fall short. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olddirty 269 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 Why put these guys in Juniors? They both are amazing and can compete for the spot at the senior level now. Pico can beat Metcalf. Can he now, maybe not. Snyder can beat JD and Varner. Right now maybe not but surely will by 2016. These two are that good. Confidence is very hard to rebuild when you are young. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RetiredPoster 87 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 once again, slow down with these kids. lots can happen over the next few years of their development, good and bad. very few of the early bloomers reach expectations compared to the ones that don't. unneccessary pressure is usaully one of the reasons they fall short. Thank you!!! That's all I have been saying all along......the extra pressure is not needed. Snyder can take Varner? You guys kill me....That Varner is a man mountain.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishhook 142 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 Snyder has a few years, but training with JD Bergman, Rowlands, Tervel, Pucillo, Gavin, and more won't hurt. Varner is a beast, but JD is right there. Pucillo beat Varner for NCAA title. He will be getting plenty to prepare. Still he has to worry about plenty more than just Varner right now. He is just a kid. Good to hear his success though for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinnum 711 Report post Posted February 17, 2014 I don't see anything wrong with wrestling juniors. They battle with senior level guys often. Sometimes it is good to be rewarded by comparing yourself against other athletes in similar positions to you. This is the reason I like the National Collegiate Open. I think it motivates guys when they see their successes against peers. Don't want them suffering from chained elephant syndrome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meloserio 8 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Last time I checked there is little age difference between the two, a year maybe even less. You are absolutely right. Pico is September of 1996, Snyder is November of 1995. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flwrestler14 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Last time I checked there is little age difference between the two, a year maybe even less. You are absolutely right. Pico is September of 1996, Snyder is November of 1995. That's about what I was expecting. I can't wait to see them at the trials. Personally I'm hoping for a Cox vs Snyder matchup to see where the two are at and get some hype for next year, though I think Cox may end up a heavyweight. Also am excited for Pico vs JO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 333 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 We need someone to replace Varner and Burroughs in 2017 through 2024. I know it is early but we have two Dave Schultz type guys here unless MMA steals them. Pico may be able to get the spot now at 143 but I am sure he will end up at 163 Im sure. I could see our team after 2017 being: 125 Garrett 143 Oliver 163 Pico 189 Martseller 213 Snyder 275 Cox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwayswrestling 163 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Yeah I would say just a tad early to be discussing 2017 line ups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 333 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 Yeah I would say just a tad early to be discussing 2017 line ups. I know. Just excited though about these young phenoms! They are so good now that they could challenge the senior guys now. Excited about this years open and trials. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwayswrestling 163 Report post Posted February 20, 2014 I am looking forward to watching these young guys as well unfortunately I have not seen them wrestle in person only on youtube matches. So I am not as convinced as you that they can go with the seniors yet but of the two I am thinking that Snyder could do better. Just not sold on all the hype quite yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapspinscore 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2014 We need someone to replace Varner and Burroughs in 2017 through 2024. I know it is early but we have two Dave Schultz type guys here unless MMA steals them. Pico may be able to get the spot now at 143 but I am sure he will end up at 163 Im sure. I could see our team after 2017 being: 125 Garrett 143 Oliver 163 Pico 189 Martseller 213 Snyder 275 Cox I just don't see Marsteller ever achieving this. I have seen him wrestle freestyle against junior level college guys, and went 0-2 against 2 below average guys. I don't buy his hype. Maybe Bo Jordan will eventually get into freestyle. He is the real deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Education 24 Report post Posted February 21, 2014 Burroughs might be around in 2017. Also, Dake, Taylor, and Howe will probably be around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
