PAFAN01 50 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 Why no mention of Greg Jones? Does anyone with knowledge of the program know how much control Jones had over the program? I could be wrong, but I thought a few years ago he was promoted to Associate Head Coach. Since he is younger, and was so accomplished as an athlete, I would figure he was the one, mainly, in charge of training and technique. But, like I said, I don't know if I would be right to think that... (Mobile) He is listed as associate head coach on their web site. That was my reason for asking about Greg Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commonwealth 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 Mr. Luck should look at these coaches first: #1 Lou Rosselli-TOSU #2 Eric Guerrero-Okla St #3 Jared Frayer-Oklahoma They seem to be proven coaches and seem ready to make the transition to Head Coach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenmt. 4 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 Greg Jones was a fantastic wrestler but not sure his athletic style really translates to 99% of the wrestlers on your roster. Greg was a freak, but Greg also couldn't ride anyone ( he never had to) so hence the reason WVU wrestlers aren't good on top. WVU does get top talent since Greg Jones has been the asst. and running the practices, but he hasn't developed any of them. Shane Young, Colin Johnston, Nathan Panessi ect. all were the top 5 in the country coming out of high school, but never got any better in the WVU program. Most people don't know this but Lance Bryson beat Ed Ruth at states in 2008. Then Ed goes to Penn st. and well we all know his story, but Lance goes to WVU and gets worse. (Lance lost to a D3 wrestler from Thiel, last year). My point is just because your a great wrestler doesn't mean you can develop talent as a coach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,688 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 How does Coleman Scott make anyone's short list? He is still competing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,773 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 How does Coleman Scott make anyone's short list? He is still competing. I would bet that if he got an offer, he'd give up competition for being a head coach of a fully funded D1 program with so much potential close to home. Those positions aren't available too often. He is a local (as close as you can get without being from WV itself). He is a highly recognizable and well-respected star who still has clout in the region and would recruit top talent. He has been mentored throughout his career as both an athlete and coach by one of the very best in the business. He's a little young and not as experienced as some guys mentioned on this thread, but he has to get some credit for developing OSU's lightweights given that the wrestles with them every day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 811 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 Coleman Scott could be a great 1st assistant to whoever they end up hiring. I often wonder if some of the people on here have any idea what a head wrestling coach does. By the way, when was the last time Scott lived in Pennsylvania? 2004? By the way, here is a profile of the Athletic Director from September on Grantland.com: http://grantland.com/features/the-life-career-oliver-luck-athletic-director-west-virginia-andrew-luck-father/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenmt. 4 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 For the people who think Coleman is too young, Cael was 30 when he was hired at Penn St., worked out pretty good for them so far.I think John Smith was 28 when Okie St. hired him, worked out very well so far. I believe Dan Gable was 30 when he was hired at Iowa. These are just a few examples of great wrestlers who turned into great coaches around the age of 30. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,773 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 Coleman Scott could be a great 1st assistant to whoever they end up hiring. I often wonder if some of the people on here have any idea what a head wrestling coach does. I know very well what a head coach does, which is why I had Flynn as my first choice and Hahn as my second. However, when your starting point is WVU post-Turnbull, and you are looking to hire someone with a lot of upside, Scott is worth considering despite his youth for all the reasons stated. There are better options, but he is one worth considering. There are probably better guys even at his level for other schools, but WVU's location and Scott's background make him a particularly good fit. As greenmt said, sometimes betting on someone before he's ready on paper pays off pretty well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,688 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 For the people who think Coleman is too young, Cael was 30 when he was hired at Penn St., worked out pretty good for them so far.I think John Smith was 28 when Okie St. hired him, worked out very well so far. I believe Dan Gable was 30 when he was hired at Iowa. These are just a few examples of great wrestlers who turned into great coaches around the age of 30. Apples and oranges. If they want to hire a younger guy, it should be someone like Eric Guerrero, Donny Pritzlaff or Brandon Eggum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurshy92 28 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 jeremy spates is pretty young as well and he just got hired Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigApple 86 Report post Posted March 29, 2014 Oliver Luck the AD (Andrew Luck's dad) has proven he'll think outside the box. He hired Dana Holgerson who was the offensive coordinator at OSU for one year when the school was one game away from making the BCS championship game. Now WVU hasn't done well since then, so time will tell how that hire will workout. With the Big12 TV contract there should be sufficient funds to pay a top flight coach. Flynn would appear to be an excellent choice. Expect schools to start taking runs at PSU's assistants given their success the past four years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abc_123 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Ok out of the box...Jeff Buxton. Not a college assistant, but a proven head coach...and available. Would draw from NJ and PA and create dome buzz. Give him a 3yr contract. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KKreborn 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Tim Flynn's father was in the Marine Corps and Tim got his first introduction to wrestling in the Navy Junior program while his father was stationed at Annapolis. He also spent his senior year of HS at Annapolis HS(after his dad was transferred back from CA). He has big ties to Navy, and although he is happy and well supported at the Boro (what better Ad than Baumgartner?) Navy is the one place I might see him leaving for. Don't see him going to WVU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffr_ideal 216 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 How about Lou Roselli or Jeff Jaggers for the WVU job? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbg 27 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 If WVU wants to win they must hire one of the best recruiters in the nation. You can be the best technician and instructor in the country but if you can't get kids to attend your school you will not win on a high level. The problem that I see with many wrestling coaches and their staff is they are great at selling the program but they don't know how to evaluate & project talent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abovetheline1 1 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Any changes rumored in Big10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grapplefan 2 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Schwab? Never happen. This would be a step down IMHO, Big 12 or no. How about one of those Pennsy guys? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abovetheline1 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2014 Any information on if any of the Big ten schools are making a change Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeShumate 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2014 It was bound to happen, so I'll say it. Why not give both jobs, Navy and WVU, simultaneously, to Gene Smith. I mean, look what the guy has done with Steiber! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rameses 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 Charles at ASU is #2 to go on the D1 scene... Any candidate ideas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powerhalf 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 Charles at ASU is #2 to go on the D1 scene... Any candidate ideas? Large school with money to burn, I'd expect similar to WVU. Scott and Becker are my top choices (no chance of getting heirs apparent like Eggum and Hahn) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stove_Pipe 15 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 ^^I'm guessing both WVU and AzState are after the same super-qualified coach. One of the two might get him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccrider55 17 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 Charles at ASU is #2 to go on the D1 scene... Any candidate ideas? Large school with money to burn, I'd expect similar to WVU. Scott and Becker are my top choices (no chance of getting heirs apparent like Eggum and Hahn) So much "money to burn" that private fundraising funds a significant part, and the aid of a mega rich politically connected individual was fortunately able to be garnered to help save/fund the program when they cut wrestling and several other sports in a money saving move several years ago... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jstock 125 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 Stove - I sent you a PM. Who are the leading candidates for the WVU job ? The ASU job should be a good one. Great weather, great scenery and lots of talent in the region. Admission requirements are not too bad and tuition is not unreasonable. Will be interesting to see if the Cali studs are recruited and provide some depth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clay133 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2014 I've heard Zeke Jones has interviewed with WVU and I would imagine he's a target for ASU. Was hoping to see an announcement out of UNC this week too. Might be wishful thinking on my part though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites