superold 34 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 141 pound collegiate wrestler and 65/66 kg freestyle wrestler ever? I constantly hear about Zain's size whenever he wrestles a highly anticipated matchup. I've heard his size mentioned more than any other college wrestler that I can remember. I've heard Zain's lack of size mentioned as a significant reason for him losing the following matches: Aaron Pico (Fila Jrs.) Logan Stieber (Big 10/Ncaa semis) Jason Tsirtsis (Jr. trials finals) Mitchell Port (ncaa wrestlebacks). I'm wondering how we should view these matchups. Should we consider Zain to be bumping up a weight class every match he wrestles? If Zain beats the top guys, does that clearly demonstrate that he's more skilled because he's doing it at a (alleged) far smaller size? I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 I've heard on more than a few occasions that Retherford was a small 63kg wrestler when he claimed his Cadet Freestyle World title. Pico was said to be a good sized, and even big, 63kg kid. If you agree with that assessment, is it fair to say that Zain had the more impressive run to the Cadet title? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwosackJon 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 I think PSU will win its 5th straight national championship next year. :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 2 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 This ranks as one of the 3 most ridiculous topics in the many years of this forum. However, he does barely make weight in the 103 lb weight class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 This ranks as one of the 3 most ridiculous topics in the many years of this forum. However, he does barely make weight in the 103 lb weight class. Why is it so ridiculous? I've heard Retherford's size/weight mentioned more than any college wrestler this past season. It's often given as a reason to explain why Retherford has come up short in some big matches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superold 34 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 What do you think Vakattack? You usually have a well reasoned opinion to give. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 He was said to weigh about 150 last summer so actual wt might not be evident. What is evident is the eyeball test.....and if you look at him against most anyone you have brought up you will see the difference in appearance. Then.... turn on the volume as you listen to the match and hear the same thing coming out of the mouths of those broadcasting!! I may be that many 149 lbers walk aroung at 160+ during the off season and can handle the cut and Zain would rather not cut that much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,838 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 Isn't he bumping up to 149? I might be misunderestimating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMopar 17 Report post Posted April 25, 2014 No!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerbufoon 40 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 No, he's gonna bump up to 141 again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matburn155 3 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 No Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,838 Report post Posted April 26, 2014 You guys think he could go 125 while mega redshirts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigApple 86 Report post Posted April 27, 2014 Retherford will probably redshirt next year. Yes I thought he'd be smaller than Pico and that would be why he lost. I saw him wrestle Tsirtis last summer and he was definitely smaller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerbufoon 40 Report post Posted April 27, 2014 I thought the same thing when Burroughs wrestled Taylor, except the bugger guy lost in that battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokeyjoe 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2014 Will both Zain and Mega red shirt? If so, PSU does not win a title! Likely they won't win anyways as Ohio State looks formidable right now. Four or five other teams look as strong as PSU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokeyjoe 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2014 Will both Zain and Mega red shirt? If so, PSU does not win a title! Likely they won't win anyways as Ohio State looks formidable right now. Four or five other teams look as strong as PSU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites