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Cael Sanderson participating in an MMA Training Session

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One of the guys who runs the gym invited him in after seeing on ESPN how great Penn State did at nationals.

 

 

Unless you want to watch the other items in the video the Sanderson parts are

 

1:21 - 4:07

5:17 - 6:40

 

(For those into MMA its at a Wanderei Silva training session)

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Interesting how he seems to pick right up on MMA positioning - he's probably at least a casual fan of the sport.

 

The guy who introduced him was a Calvary Chapel coach, who probably coached McIntosh. Recruiting trip?

 

Cael has shown some MMA technique on his own site.

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Interesting how he seems to pick right up on MMA positioning - he's probably at least a casual fan of the sport.

 

The guy who introduced him was a Calvary Chapel coach, who probably coached McIntosh. Recruiting trip?

 

Cael has shown some MMA technique on his own site.

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Cael vs Roy Jones Jr.

 

Sanderson Funeral to follow.

 

If Jones was even willing to get close enough to take a swing, Cael would have tied him Jr. up like a pretzel. There is a reason why wrestlers DOMINATE and boxers are nowhere to be found in MMA.

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Uh, Zelph: did you happen to catch the randy couture/James toney fight?

 

Horrible example. James Toney was a way past his prime fat out of shape guy looking for a payday. Toney was a former middleweight champ(160 pounds) in the early 90's. I watched pretty much every fight of Toney's growing up, he has always been my favorite fighter. It is sad how he let himself go and is now delusional. In his prime he was one of the most skilled boxers I ever saw.

 

People will always argue about MMA fighter vs a boxer. I rarely follow MMA, I followed boxing for over 25 years. The only fair way to see who would win is get the best fighter from their respective sport and then see what happens, NOT throwing in a old fat lazy blown up heavyweight in a cage.

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Jones in particular would have been interesting. His foot and hand speed would have been a difficult match up for anyone. He could definitely stick and move effectively on an MMA fighter or wrestler. The million dollar question is whether he could do it long enough to end the fight. Of course, the wrestler could pull an Antonio Inoki.....

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Could see Cael trying to drop low for an ankle pick and losing his head to a solid uppercut.

On the mat, no contest..., but could Cael get him on the mat before being knocked into next week?

 

I don't think so.

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Uh, Zelph: did you happen to catch the randy couture/James toney fight?

 

Horrible example. James Toney was a way past his prime fat out of shape guy looking for a payday. Toney was a former middleweight champ(160 pounds) in the early 90's. I watched pretty much every fight of Toney's growing up, he has always been my favorite fighter. It is sad how he let himself go and is now delusional. In his prime he was one of the most skilled boxers I ever saw.

 

People will always argue about MMA fighter vs a boxer. I rarely follow MMA, I followed boxing for over 25 years. The only fair way to see who would win is get the best fighter from their respective sport and then see what happens, NOT throwing in a old fat lazy blown up heavyweight in a cage.

 

I'd agree that Toney was way past his prime, although he actually had been training in MMA the previous year in anticipation of that fight, and seemed to be taking it seriously. He was and still is boxing to this day. It was too bad he couldn't show any his striking ability, as Randy quickly took him down.

 

It seems that in MMA, from its early days to the present era, the boxer vs. wrestler vs. jiujitsu vs. any other combat style argument comes down to the best rounded fighter, e.g. the wrestler who might not be the best in wrestling, but knows enough boxing and submissions to control the match, take the opponent out of their element, and make them fight HIS fight.

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CAel is too much a pretty boy, not a killer like Mark Schultz. Cael is lucky he never had to wrestle Mark. Very lucky he never had to meet up with Greg Stroble.

 

Wrestling as Cael did and his whining about how the refs were unfair to him - MMA would see him with his head handed to him on a regular basis.

 

An excellent wrestler but definately not a fighter. Leave that to Schultz and keep Cael coaching the PornState child molestors.

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CAel is too much a pretty boy, not a killer like Mark Schultz. Cael is lucky he never had to wrestle Mark. Very lucky he never had to meet up with Greg Stroble.

 

Wrestling as Cael did and his whining about how the refs were unfair to him - MMA would see him with his head handed to him on a regular basis.

 

An excellent wrestler but definately not a fighter. Leave that to Schultz and keep Cael coaching the PornState child molestors.

 

Cael would tool up Schultz. At this point, I would wager on Cael vs Wanderlei in a straight MMA fight as well.

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CAel is too much a pretty boy, not a killer like Mark Schultz. Cael is lucky he never had to wrestle Mark. Very lucky he never had to meet up with Greg Stroble.

 

Wrestling as Cael did and his whining about how the refs were unfair to him - MMA would see him with his head handed to him on a regular basis.

 

An excellent wrestler but definately not a fighter. Leave that to Schultz and keep Cael coaching the PornState child molestors.

 

Cael would tool up Schultz. At this point, I would wager on Cael vs Wanderlei in a straight MMA fight as well.

 

I would take that bet.

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I am a fan of Cael's, as much as anyone, but Roy Jones would throttle him...Roy Jones is an athlete, not just a boxer.

 

Ali was an athlete too, and he couldn't even hit that Japanese Sumo guy. The Sumo guy laid on his frieking back and Ali couldn't do anything to him.

 

Roy Jones would have to land the perfect punch in the first 20 seconds to take out an Olympic caliber wrestler, because once they get thru and get their hands on him he will be tied up and they will keep him on the ground.

 

I used to believe that a great boxer would beat a great wrestler, but the beginnings of MMA shows this is simply not the case. The wrestlers won almost all the time vs. pure boxers. The difference was so lopsided that pure boxers rarely even try the crossover MMA any more. That is your best evidence right there.

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Look at what Floyd Mayweather makes and then look at what Johny Hendricks makes and then tell yourself that boxers don't cross over because they are afraid of wrestlers.

 

are there any boxers that make less money a year than Hendricks? they would be the ones who would presumably be enticed to try MMA and raise their pay grade.

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I just read an article that says UFC smokes the salary of boxing. Obviously pacman and Mayweather and the super stars get multi million dollar pay days, but that is such an anomaly in the real boxing world. When you go down the line up of any big boxing event the bottom drops out pretty fast. Not so much in a good MMA card. Now I'm not one to say that Rhonda Rousey would abuse Floyd Mayweather in the octagon like many believe, but I do think it would be an interesting fight. Much better chance than he would have against a man. So he could make one last nice payday if he could beat up a girl in this sport...kinda says a lot. Boxers have developed one specific skill set and that's difficult to get far in mma as anyone that even remotely pays attention to the sport will tell you. I know you could teach a boxer to mma, but like all disciplines they would have to be well rounded and willing to spend considerable time mastering other disciplines, or they would not be a factor.

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The wrestlers dominating in the real fighting sport (MMA) is not some fluke based on boxers making a lot of money.

 

Imagine how many VERY good boxers are still living paycheck to paycheck at dead end jobs. If they could cross over and dominate MMA they would do it.

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