Old_Marine_Wrestler 245 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 coming up. Jake and Micah, a couple of great Ohio high school wrestlers (both 4 timers?). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Should be a good match. Micah's older brother Bo looks to be on a collision course with Taylor Massa in the 165 Open final. Edited November 2, 2014 by TBar1977 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 There are some terrific matches coming up at MSU. Micah v. Danishek 157 Freshmen Bo vs. Massa 165 Open, assuming both win in semis. Kyle Snyder v. Phil Wellington in the 197 Open final, assuming both win in the semis. Joey Davis v. John Rizquallah at 184 Johnny Sebastian vs. Mark Martin in the 174 semis 125 semis are Thomasello vs. Zeke Moisey (I think they have wrestled before in a classic Ironman final) and Micic vs. Youtsey. Nice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachWrestling 432 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 Bo has been absolutely slaying the guys he has wrestled. Peyton Walsh (Talyor Walsh's brother) vs. Bo in the semis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 Micah v Danishek is exciting but hard to believe it's happening in the quarters of soph/frosh It's like the type of matchup you see in international freestyle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 Micah v Danishek is exciting but hard to believe it's happening in the quarters of soph/frosh It's like the type of matchup you see in international freestyle. OK, it is really coming up soon now. Second match in the cue on Mat 8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Marine_Wrestler 245 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 Bo has been absolutely slaying the guys he has wrestled. Peyton Walsh (Talyor Walsh's brother) vs. Bo in the semis. Peyton Walsh is not Taylor Walsh's brother. 1 Chrissn2001 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadMardigain 1,603 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Peyton Walsh is not Taylor Walsh's brother. Correct. Chad Walsh of Rider would be Taylor's brother. Edited November 3, 2014 by MadMardigain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,094 Report post Posted November 2, 2014 Chad Walsh (Rider) is Taylor Walsh's brother ... Peyton Walsh is from Richmond, Virginia ... and of a slightly different complexion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 BoJo rode Taylor Massa the whole third period to win 4-1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Kyle Snyder beat Phil Wellington 11-4. Wellington is one of a handful of guys I would even give a chance to beat Snyder this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 This thread started with a post about a match including Jake Danishek. He is currently wrestling for 5th place in the freshman/soph. division, as is Ben Whitford fwiw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkwdSteve 142 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Interesting that both Huntley and Wellington got an early first takedown on Snyder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasden 54 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Dang I do not see anyone beating Ohio State in a dual or at NCAA's. They are stacked and it is not even gonna be close. Sorry just had to say it. Edited November 3, 2014 by Chasden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 I'm a buckeye fan but have no problem criticizing them when it's warranted. Today...I am impressed. Snyder, BoJo and Tomasello took out tough opponents with relative ease. They score lots of bonus too. Add them to the Stiebers and that's five very fine wrestlers. If Martin, Demas, DiJulius, Tavanello and Courts can keep up, they're quite a team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Dang I do not see anyone beating Ohio State in a dual or at NCAA's. They are stacked and it is not even gonna be close. Sorry just had to say it. They'll be favored in every dual at 197, 141. Those two weights are not in dispute. IMO, BoJo will beat the Iowa and Minnesota 165's. Thomasello will beat Gilman imo, and he will surely beat the Minnesota 125. Hunter will crush the Iowa 149 and he will beat anyone Minnesota puts on the mat too. Minnesota's only chance is to win everything else and Schiller has to beat Snyder. Ness and Storley probably have to win by pin. Pretty much any big dual where any of Haines, Demas, Courts, Martin of Johnny DiJ score, they will win. Edited November 3, 2014 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,600 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 They'll be favored in every dual at 197, 141. Those two weights are not in dispute. IMO, BoJo will beat the Iowa and Minnesota 165's. Thomasello will beat Gilman imo, and he will surely beat the Minnesota 125. Hunter will crush the Iowa 149 and he will beat anyone Minnesota puts on the mat too. Minnesota's only chance is to win everything else and Schiller has to beat Snyder. Ness and Storley probably have to win by pin. Pretty much any big dual where any of Haines, Demas, Courts, Martin of Johnny DiJ score, they will win. Your first statement, why do you say 197 is not in dispute vs. Schiller? There's enough evidence that there is NO dispute? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stp 564 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Mick was by far the more aggressive against Danishek. In fact I believe Danisheks first shot came late in the 3rd when already down. Danishek has good defense no doubt. Bo needs a haircut. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Demas' win over Murphy is an important indication he is healthy and real threat to AA this season; and that's supposed to be one of tOSU's weaker weights, yikes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 552 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 They'll be favored in every dual at 197, 141. Those two weights are not in dispute. IMO, BoJo will beat the Iowa and Minnesota 165's. Thomasello will beat Gilman imo, and he will surely beat the Minnesota 125. Hunter will crush the Iowa 149 and he will beat anyone Minnesota puts on the mat too. Minnesota's only chance is to win everything else and Schiller has to beat Snyder. Ness and Storley probably have to win by pin. Pretty much any big dual where any of Haines, Demas, Courts, Martin of Johnny DiJ score, they will win. BoJo over Nick Moore is conceivable but not a given. What is Massa's record against him?? Schiller should be the current favorite over Snyder at 197. I like Snyder a lot and he may be better but until I see it I am not going to put the mortgage on it. Schiller did just beat Cox BTW. Thomasello beat a true freshman in the finals. Kid looks great but consider the competition. Putting him on top of any 125'r in the top 4 is premature. Can't wait to see it though. It really isn't about the duals this year with the Bucks, and the crew you mentioned at the end have to put points up at the show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 552 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Demas' win over Murphy is an important indication he is healthy and real threat to AA this season; and that's supposed to be one of tOSU's weaker weights, yikes! However, he won because the ref called a BS push out of bounds. Demas much more of a threat in neutral in that match than Murphy but HEALTH as you stated is the big point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Your first statement, why do you say 197 is not in dispute vs. Schiller? There's enough evidence that there is NO dispute? Because, and this may be my opinion only, but Snyder is the better wrestler of the two. It is certainly possible that Schiller would beat him, but I wouldn't bet money on that. I don't care about "rankings". This is just my personal opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,014 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 They'll be favored in every dual at 197, 141. Those two weights are not in dispute. IMO, BoJo will beat the Iowa and Minnesota 165's. Thomasello will beat Gilman imo, and he will surely beat the Minnesota 125. Hunter will crush the Iowa 149 and he will beat anyone Minnesota puts on the mat too. Minnesota's only chance is to win everything else and Schiller has to beat Snyder. Ness and Storley probably have to win by pin. Pretty much any big dual where any of Haines, Demas, Courts, Martin of Johnny DiJ score, they will win. It's one weekend. Dry yourself off. Snyder beat a guy who went 1-2 at the NCAA tournament last year at a weight that has 6 of 8 returning AAs from last season, including the champion. Lets have him beat an All-American before we go crazy. And Gilman beat Tomasello two straight at the Junior WTT, so.... Anyway, here's how I see it: Iowa-tOSU 125: Iowa 133: iowa 141: tOSU MD 149: tOSU (assuming Hunter wrestles...sat out again this weekend.) 157: tOSU 165: Toss up 174: Iowa 184: Iowa 197: Toss up HW: Iowa Minny-tOSU 125: tOSU 133: Minny 141: tOSU 149: tOSU 157: Minny (Always a PIN potential) 165: tOSU (maybe bonus...not sure who Minny is throwing out there) 174: Minny 184: Toss up 197: Minny HW: Minny Maybe we calm down before we call BoJo and Snyder the new Taylor & Ruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 Heading into yesterday's event, my big question about Snyder was how he'd wrestle on the mat. Answer--just fine. He's solid in both positions and had no problem dispatching 3 tough, experienced opponents. Someone wrote that Tomasello would beat Gilman. Gilman has consistently shown he can beat Tomasello albeit closely in freestyle. Based on history, Gilman is favored in that one. Tomasello looks terrific but he was whomping on young guys (although they are very good young guys...and he's also a young guy). Bo Jordan showed yesterday that he is potentially one of the very best at 165. Massa is a top 6 guy at 165 and Bo was able to control him en route to a solid win. Dieringer remains the favorite without question and I'd pick him today. But after AD, Bo has arguably the most complete skill set. Demas has improved his mat game and that makes a big difference. However, Murphy is a countering fool and almost scored twice when Demas was in on deep shots. If I were Michigan, my strategy next time would be to allow Demas to get in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RealAmericanHero 127 Report post Posted November 3, 2014 From what I can tell, Ohio State is missing a few pieces that in any other year of the national tournament big picture would put them back a few spots. But for some reason this year seems different. I still think Minnesota, Ohio State, and Iowa are the leaders on the national stage. Who is Ohio State's starting 133 pound competitor? I have not heard of anything about this weight class going back to their wrestle-offs. Is Nick Tavanello their starting heavyweight? If so, he seems to have taken a step or two back from last year's NCAA tournament. (He was a round of 12 guy last year and pinned by a club team competitor at the MSU Open yesterday.) Those are two glaring holes for a predicted champion team. But as my initial point stated, I still have Ohio State with Minnesota and Iowa. After checking the schedules, it seems the fans of the Buckeyes will have nice dual meets to attend. Iowa and Minnesota travel to Ohio to wrestle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
