TBar1977 4,597 Report post Posted November 5, 2014 Anyone want to break this one down? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,067 Report post Posted November 5, 2014 i recommend this nifty tool for anyone looking to go more in depth. it is quite nifty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stove_Pipe 15 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 ^^Curious why Edgar Bright has not been competing early Nov? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stp 564 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 i recommend this nifty tool for anyone looking to go more in depth. it is quite nifty! If you like the response of "no common opponents" for everything sure it's nifty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,067 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 If you like the response of "no common opponents" for everything sure it's nifty. yeah i guess it's only displaying 14-15 results, of which there are few. still, it has all the rosters and a simple, clean, user friendly interface for comparing line ups. i find that to be decidedly nifty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 It's almost difficult to break this down with a lot of lineup questions. A full strength Pitt lineup could give Edinboro a run, but the lineup they put out this last weekend was missing a few key guys. 125: My guess is Mines will be the guy for Edinboro, despite that wrestle off loss to Russell. Makes more sense to redshirt Russell and let Mones finish out, I don't think you gain much by wrestling Russell and with all they are losing this year it probably helps to rebuild. Pitt went with true freshmen Forys this weekend, but what ever happened to. Nick Roberts? Is he on the team, eligible, competing? I think Mines beats Forys, tho not a lock I suppose, but with Roberst in there I'd call it a 50/50. 133: Schopp is #1 in the country and this might be one of the weakest links in the Pitt lineup. Expect bonus here. 141: Bright didn't wrestle this weekend. I know he's had some injuries before, but he is very good and a real shot to AA this year. I don't think he can beat Port but I think he could make it interesting, without Bright this is bonus for Edinboro. 149: Racciato does own a won over Kindig so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he can beat Habat, but Habat has to be the favorite. 157: Matthews beats anyone Pitt puts out here. 165: I though Weirchoch would be the guy for Pitt here but he didn't go this weekend. If he wrestles he is the favorite, if not I say this is a 50/50. 174: Wilps would be a big favorite here, but I don't know if he's ready to go and I don't know enough about their backup at this weight, so I'm gonna say Edinboro is favored here. 184: Marquee matchup of the night with Avery and Thoumeseit. The Mass homer in me wants to pick Avery, but I think Pitt is a very slight favorite here 197: Bonacorsi favored 285: Probably a tossup, Edinboro kid did well at Clarion, Pitt always seems to have a tough group of upper weights, haven't seen enough of either to pick, call this a tossup. 1 Jaroslav Hasek reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill 75 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 It's almost difficult to break this down with a lot of lineup questions. A full strength Pitt lineup could give Edinboro a run, but the lineup they put out this last weekend was missing a few key guys. 125: My guess is Mines will be the guy for Edinboro, despite that wrestle off loss to Russell. Makes more sense to redshirt Russell and let Mones finish out, I don't think you gain much by wrestling Russell and with all they are losing this year it probably helps to rebuild. Pitt went with true freshmen Forys this weekend, but what ever happened to. Nick Roberts? Is he on the team, eligible, competing? I think Mines beats Forys, tho not a lock I suppose, but with Roberst in there I'd call it a 50/50. 133: Schopp is #1 in the country and this might be one of the weakest links in the Pitt lineup. Expect bonus here. 141: Bright didn't wrestle this weekend. I know he's had some injuries before, but he is very good and a real shot to AA this year. I don't think he can beat Port but I think he could make it interesting, without Bright this is bonus for Edinboro. 149: Racciato does own a won over Kindig so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he can beat Habat, but Habat has to be the favorite. 157: Matthews beats anyone Pitt puts out here. 165: I though Weirchoch would be the guy for Pitt here but he didn't go this weekend. If he wrestles he is the favorite, if not I say this is a 50/50. 174: Wilps would be a big favorite here, but I don't know if he's ready to go and I don't know enough about their backup at this weight, so I'm gonna say Edinboro is favored here. 184: Marquee matchup of the night with Avery and Thoumeseit. The Mass homer in me wants to pick Avery, but I think Pitt is a very slight favorite here 197: Bonacorsi favored 285: Probably a tossup, Edinboro kid did well at Clarion, Pitt always seems to have a tough group of upper weights, haven't seen enough of either to pick, call this a tossup. MA, I thought that I read that Roberts was not eligible until the 2nd semester. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andegre 200 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 If you like the response of "no common opponents" for everything sure it's nifty. Noted. I got 95% of the match results done last night. Will get the remaining tonight. Once I'm done, they will get uploaded to the production site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 MA, I thought that I read that Roberts was not eligible until the 2nd semester. Thanks, hadn't seen that yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,597 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 Thanks MA. Great write up! 1 MA_Wrestler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teach 175 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 MA and anyone for that matter, some of us, or maybe just me, do not know every kid in the nation, so it is really helpful to have notes like this. When I look at results or am able to watch the match, I use them to add excitement. The bad part about it is I also force my wife to listen to me about it! 2 Jaroslav Hasek and PhiferFuqua reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 448 Report post Posted November 6, 2014 ... any possible way to see this dual on-line??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,134 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 It's on Flo, and since there's no Bader, you don't have to get screamed at for 10 matches 1 pipewrench reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 448 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 ... thanks IronChief ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 921 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 anyone see a box score yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommytechnique 68 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Pitt won 25-13. I was following the Pitt wrestling twitter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinnum 846 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/110614aab.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 921 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Just found this... 125: Forys (P) WBD Mines (E) 6-0133: Schopp (E) MD Zanetta (P) 10-0 141: Port (E) WBF Schaffer (P) 149: Racciato (P) MD Lorea (E) 12-4 (Not sure where Habat was) 157: Matthews (E) WBD (P) Garbinsky 7-4 165: Weircioch (P) WBD Fuller (E) 5-3 174: Rearghard (P) WBD Jennings (E) 6-5 184: Thomusseit (P) WBD Avery (E) 5-3 197: Bonaccorsi (P) WBD Pickett (E) 4-1 285: Rizzo (P) WBF (E) Bosch Mines appears to be having a rough start this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill 75 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Just found this... 125: Forys (P) WBD Mines (E) 6-0 133: Schopp (E) MD Zanetta (P) 10-0 141: Port (E) WBF Schaffer (P) 149: Racciato (P) MD Lorea (E) 12-4 (Not sure where Habat was) 157: Matthews (E) WBD (P) Garbinsky 7-4 165: Weircioch (P) WBD Fuller (E) 5-3 174: Rearghard (P) WBD Jennings (E) 6-5 184: Thomusseit (P) WBD Avery (E) 5-3 197: Bonaccorsi (P) WBD Pickett (E) 4-1 285: Rizzo (P) WBF (E) Bosch Mines appears to be having a rough start this year. Lu, pretty sure Flo announcer said Habat had a skin issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 448 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 .... b.o.h. win for the panthers ...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerfan9311 223 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Wow. I guess all the hype about Edinboro was premature. 3 guys does not a team make, especially when one of them doesn't wrestle. Exactly why some sort of calculus about dual strength should be part of what determines the team champion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,597 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Edinboro isn't winning any national title this year, even if Habat scores 30 points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MA_Wrestler 169 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 I wouldn't say they are overrated just yet. It's one, very early season loss. November duals do not and should not be a deciding factor in a national championship picture. I don't think anyone realistically expected Edinboro to win a team title, but they still could have a top 5 finish, if a few guys step up between now and March. That said, I'm sure this was a big let down for them. They have been getting a lot of attention, and rightfully so. To be fair, it's not like they lost to the 63rd best team in the country or something, Pitt is damn good and could be a top 10 dual team again this year. Habat not wrestling hurt, but Pitt was missing Bright and Wilps so I can't blame it all on Habat. Mines losing to a true freshment, their 74 losing to a backup, heavyweight getting pinned, certainly didn't see those coming. Sounds like this was a great dual, great win for Pitt. I'm sure this win will give them a lot of confidence going into that Penn St dual in a couple weeks, which could be very interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 993 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 BTW, the true freshman who Mines lost to? He wasn't even a state qualifier his senior year, finishing 4th at the WPIAL AAA Championships (aka Southwest Regional) at 126 pounds, one spot out of where he needed to be to qualify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bilchuk 6 Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Pitt is great dual meet team-we all know that. This is pretty early season--Boro primes for March. This outcome actually doesn't surprise me. Flynn will work them and have them ready when it really counts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
