IronChef 804 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/tv-wrestling-analyst-on-iowa-rutgers-being-a-great-mee-1677259523/+bubbaprog 1 xander reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,305 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,305 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 Pariano got the ball rolling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 1,902 Report post Posted January 3, 2015 he deserves a raise. thats great publicity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvallstar 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 This is why we need wrestling announcers to get some recognition. Football had Madden, basketball has Vitale, wrestling needs an announcer that adds color and recognition. Listening to takedown radio was one of the best things about the national duals at UNI. Gibbons has shown some nice commentating that makes it interesting to listen to and watch. Although I really miss Ken Chertow too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkwdSteve 141 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 "This is why we need wrestling announcers to get some recognition. Football had Madden, basketball has Vitale, wrestling needs an announcer that adds color and recognition." I would agree, but Johnson and Gibbons are NOT the guys to garner color or recognition. Find someone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 600 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 I would agree, but Johnson and Gibbons are NOT the guys to garner color or recognition. Find someone else. Jake Herbert, Greg Warren and Mark Schultz, just to make it REALLY interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Thanks for posting, LOL. I was watching the scuffle and forgot to record the live match so ended up with the edited rerun later that night. Love the eco !! Edited January 4, 2015 by Flying-Tiger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 This is why we need wrestling announcers to get some recognition. Football had Madden, basketball has Vitale, wrestling needs an announcer that adds color and recognition. I thought that was what Mark Bader does? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jstock 125 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 Cliff Fretwell would keep even the most casual fans engaged. The combo of Bader and Fretwell announcing the finals of a big tournament is an experiment I would love to see. Please give it a try Flo. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvallstar 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 The flo guys definitely add some energy, but I still think the 20 a month is a little steep. Or maybe just too much for the casual fan. I mean we need commentators on btn or ESPN that will engage people just checking an flipping channels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skikayaker 91 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 Cliff Fretwell yes, Jim Gibbons no. Anyone notice how many times Gibbons refers to shoe laces when announcing a dual meet? Gibbons bloviates and is wrong as much as he's right. Cliff Fretwell is the better option to engage all types of fans, not just the midwest old school Iowa Okla type fans that Gibbons resonates with. Those numbers are not moving. It's tourneys like the Scuffle and CKLV that win new fans. It's guys like Fretwell that win new fans. 1 jstock reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,083 Report post Posted January 4, 2015 he is a drunk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironmonkey 137 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 Please keep the Flo guys away from the Big 10 network. I enjoy the wrestling season and following the Big teams. If I had to hear all that screaming the Flo guys do I would probably stop watching. At least to this fan, I find their style of announcing impossible to sit through. I don't mind intensity. I follow MMA and often times the announcers get excited. The FLo guys just literally yell though. Often times they aren't even saying anything. Just yelling "ooooooooooooooooooow" in the mic. I turn it down and then can't hear anything. I turn it back up and they blow out my speakers with more "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW". I really don't see how that gets fans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denny 216 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 I actually find them to be knowledgeable about our sport. Sometimes funny (I said sometimes). And yes, one or the other, will occasionally roll "back in the day". That's okay. We must know where we came from in order to truly appreciate todays wrestling. And, both Johnson and Gibbons, "bring their hips to the dance." They never forget about those hips. Keep up the great work guys. You are a positive influence for our grand ole sport. 1 xander reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShortAmplitude 15 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 I'm gonna go ahead and say that Gibbons needs to go ahead and stop saying "go ahead" before I go ahead and shoot my TV. 1 gromit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 542 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 Cliff Fretwell yes, Jim Gibbons no. Anyone notice how many times Gibbons refers to shoe laces when announcing a dual meet? Gibbons bloviates and is wrong as much as he's right. Cliff Fretwell is the better option to engage all types of fans, not just the midwest old school Iowa Okla type fans that Gibbons resonates with. Those numbers are not moving. It's tourneys like the Scuffle and CKLV that win new fans. It's guys like Fretwell that win new fans. Gibbons is rarely wrong. He is a pretty knowledgeable guy when it comes to the sport. Fretwell is funny and all that but when it comes to real wrestling knowledge Gibbons stomps him. Winning fans, Fretwell may be better for this but he sounds goofy, high, and strung out most of the time to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 Gibbons and Johnson do a solid job. 1 denny reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piggy 8 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 I'm gonna go ahead and say that Gibbons needs to go ahead and stop saying "go ahead" before I go ahead and shoot my TV. Just be thankfull he's not your boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkwdSteve 141 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 I admire the loyalty of the Johnson-Gibbons apologists, but these guys are simply not professional enough, as broadcasters, for national television. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,755 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 On another note, I continue to love JD Bergman. I think he's the best wrestling announcer. As a 3x AA and currently active and highly successful national team member, he is as credible and current in his knowledge as just about anyone. He has a very objective style, even though all he does is tOSU broadcasts. He has an eloquent and professional style. He is funny but does not overdo it, which will appeal to younger and older audiences alike. I would love to see more of JD on TV. 2 tigerfan9311 and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,953 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 Bergman is my favorite. Classy and knowledgeable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaxHawk174 40 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 Bergman did a great job for the Iowa - tOSU dual. Its clear he is pulling for tOSU, but does not let that affect his call of each match, allows himself to be objective when calling the broadcast. Very classy and knowledge, agree with above posters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossel3 77 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 I'm gonna go ahead and say that Gibbons needs to go ahead and stop saying "go ahead" before I go ahead and shoot my TV. I'm with Skikayaker on this one, that "shoelaces up", "shoelaces down" has annoyed me for several years now. But on the whole he's decent. Him and Johnson are lightyears ahead of the student announcers some meets have. JD was great for the tOSU-Iowa dual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossel3 77 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 I admire the loyalty of the Johnson-Gibbons apologists, but these guys are simply not professional enough, as broadcasters, for national television. are you saying you don't think "no sh1t" sounds professional? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
