tightwaist 388 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 Jenn was a national qualifier, I believe. I don't think he ever AA'd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedMachine 210 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 What kind of credentials did Jenn have during his career? 2 time big ten placer (4th and 5th). Never an all american, but a solid wrestler in his own right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 596 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 Cael faced Jenn three times after his redshirt year and teched or majored him each time, I believe. But it may not be a valid comparison if Cael did not wrestle in tournaments that featured varsity starters (as opposed to fellow redshirts and second stringers) the way Chance did in the Scuffle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ludwigdmd 11 Report post Posted January 5, 2015 Nolf's only got 1 loss thus far in his RS year, to #2 ranked Green. It'll be interesting to see who has a better collegiate career, Marstellar or Nolf. 1 LandLord1Bob reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,043 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 marstellar was better in HS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quick__single 18 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) quick_single, regarding the OOB call on the Peterson, I thought the same thing when viewing from in the arena (that Palacio's feet were in bounds)... but then I realized that I couldn't see where Marstellar was positioned. i.e., it is possible that Marstellar may have gone off the mat, which would have resulted in an OOB call. keep in mind, simply touching a hand off the mat can result in an OOB call. My understanding is that with college OOB, wrestling continues as long as one wrestler has one hand or foot IB. So even if Marstellar was completely OOB, wrestling should have continued because Palacio's feet were still IB. Edited January 6, 2015 by quick__single Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 545 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) My understanding is that with college OOB, wrestling continues as long as one wrestler has one hand or foot IB. So even if Marstellar was completely OOB, wrestling should have continued because Palacio's feet were still IB. Not if either wrestler actually reaches the edge of the mat or is in danger of hitting an obstruction like a table or mat-side scoring tower. Now I have not watched the match in question so I can't say what did or did not happen I'm only commenting on the quoted item. Edited January 6, 2015 by Zebra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 719 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 Zebra, that is exactly what I was trying to explain. If Marstellar was in a position that his hand can touch the floor (off the mat), then there would be an OOB call. This would be the only explanation that I can come up with, as Palacio's feet were definitely in-bounds. Along the same line, the other thing that I found interesting was that the mat side scorer's tables did not appear to allow for a 5-foot space from the outer circle on the mat (as required by the rulebook). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 545 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 Along the same line, the other thing that I found interesting was that the mat side scorer's tables did not appear to allow for a 5-foot space from the outer circle on the mat (as required by the rulebook). I've worked high school for years and see that a lot especially with re-conditioned mats which are 2 feet smaller and gyms are tighter. The ref has discretion as to when to stop action when approaching an obstruction. It also means you have to be mindful of the pace and direction of action. Your number one responsibility is to maintain safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites