Garrett ducks Waters, still loses...

[HokieHWT 592]

discuss.

[mlbruem 138]

Just think He could not make weight - If he would have made weight it would not have been pretty. He looked completely drained. Waters would not have been a good person to wrestle in that condition. It would have been ugly.

 

Go Tigers

[Alwayswrestling 219]

Agree this ducking opponents kills our sport

[SetonHallPirate 869]

Alwayswrestling, I find it hard to believe that he would miss weight by .2 pounds if he were ducking Waters. He'd be far more likely to miss weight by much closer to the maximum allowed to be able to wrestle next Saturday when the Big Red wrestles Harvard.

[hammerlockthree 2,208]

What is the rationale for saying he ducked him? He....didn't want a good seed at nationals?

[tigerstyle4life 6]

I'm guessing if he was goi g to duck by missing weight it would have bee by more because they still used him. Had he not tried to make the cut he probably could have easily handled Synon..It doesn't make sense that he did it on purpose

[headshuck 2,436]

Seriously doubt he can't make weight. IMHO there's more to the mental aspect of D1 than I thought.

[hammerlockthree 2,208]

What does that mean? No one said he can't make weight. They said he broke and didn't.

[rlw028 106]

So let me get the rationale here....

 

Garret intentionally missed weight by .2 to avoid facing Waters. He then bumps to 133, wrestles poorly and fakes being gassed to make it appear as if he had a bad weight cut, when in reality, he could have made the weight but didn't want to wrestle Waters....seems like he went to a lot of trouble to avoid Waters....

 

Or maybe, just maybe, he had a bad cut, was possibly sick this week, maybe was on medication that retains water, or some combination of those things. That would logically explain the missing of weight, the poor performance and lack of spark.

[headshuck 2,436]

We were asked to discuss. I suggest the recent loss may have affected him and have nothing to do with this dual and weigh/in. He seems like a well-oiled machine that might not have room for anything introduced like a loss to anyone other than Delgado.

[LordNelson 542]

^{We were asked to discuss. I suggest the recent loss may have affected him and have nothing to do with this dual and weigh/in. He seems like a well-oiled machine that might not have room for anything introduced like a loss to anyone other than Delgado.}

 

^{What possible good could come from him not wrestling Waters??}

[headshuck 2,436]

^{What possible good could come from him not wrestling Waters??}

 

I can't think of one.  Wish I hadn't posted in this thread.

[scribe 1,742]

He just couldn't shake enough Waters.

[carp 58]

I had another question about this one.  Did Grey weigh in?  If so, what goes into the decision to move Garrett up instead of wrestling Grey.  I think if I were Grey, I might be a little pissed if this were the case.

[jvallstar 0]

the general theme of this topic is just cancerous.  Why is the de facto conclusion that someone is ducking someone if they don't wrestle or make weight.  Wrestling coincides perfectly with flu season and given the person to person contact a wrestler has any given week it is surprising if a wrestler isn't sick at least a couple of days a season.  I am not saying this is the case, but 

[LordNelson 542]

Assuming the info posted here is accurate and Garrett missed via .2, I was way off in my assumptions.

I actually thought Grey missed 133 and Koll thought he could salvage more team points with Garrett up.

 

Sorry Grey.....

[rlw028 106]

the general theme of this topic is just cancerous.  Why is the de facto conclusion that someone is ducking someone if they don't wrestle or make weight.  Wrestling coincides perfectly with flu season and given the person to person contact a wrestler has any given week it is surprising if a wrestler isn't sick at least a couple of days a season.  I am not saying this is the case, but 

 

Agreed. I've seen guys get on meds that retain water, thus making a hard weight cut. We have no way of knowing, but shouldn't assume NG is ducking anyone.

[scribe 1,742]

Grey was dinged up and wasn't planning to wrestle.

[Husker_Du 747]

the general theme of this topic is just cancerous.  Why is the de facto conclusion that someone is ducking someone if they don't wrestle or make weight.  Wrestling coincides perfectly with flu season and given the person to person contact a wrestler has any given week it is surprising if a wrestler isn't sick at least a couple of days a season.  I am not saying this is the case, but 

 

welcome to message boards

[jvallstar 0]

I understand message boards are the bottom of the bottom, doesn't mean we can't strive for better. The shocking loss really questions whether Garret was sick or if he maybe mentally broke a little against Waters and is no longer the monster he seemed to be.

[headshuck 2,436]

Actually, the bottom of the bottom are comments in general news outlets. We have a pretty good group of people here for the most part.

[KCMO2 654]

I understand message boards are the bottom of the bottom, doesn't mean we can't strive for better. 

 

They are what you make of them.  I think this is a pretty informative board with some good discussions.  Why do you come here if you think it's bottom of the bottom?

[hammerlockthree 2,208]

There is no better, just banter. 

[OtisCampbell 94]

Why would Garrett dodge someone who just beat him. It is not like Waters is a guy who puts you through 7 minutes of hell like a Taylor, Brands or McIllravy.

[Jaroslav Hasek 1,984]

avoiding wrestling someone who just beat you provides no strategic advantage with regards to future seeding. ducking works the other way around. this thread is a total zilch.