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Is T-Shirts the new Dake?

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--Everyone thought Dake was lucky to win as a frosh.

--Everyone thought his weight was weak as a soph.

--He usually won but didn't look impressive as a frosh/soph

--His defense was really good

 

 

All the same things are now being said about T-shirts.  When he gets crushed in a fantasy matchup with Metcalf, we'll know he's the next Dake.  

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well to truly be compared to Dake, it's all about the 4 year accomplishments. but strictly comparing freshman seasons:

 

both NCAA champs: tie

Dake was # 1 seed, Tshirts # 5. Advantage Dake

Records (I think these are right) - Dake 34-2, Tshirts 32-3. Slight advantage Dake.

run through NCAAs: Tshirts 4-1, 4-3, TB 2-1, TB 2-1, SV 3-1. Dake 4-1, Fall 3:48, 11-0, 3-2 TB, 7-3.

Clearly a more dominant tourney run for Dake.

 

total season dominance:

of 32 wins tshirts had 12 bonus (6 majors, 3 TFs, 3 falls). .375 bonus rate

out of 34 wins Dake had 14 bonus (5 majors, 2 TFs, and 7 falls) .412 bonus, not to mention more than 2x as many falls.

 

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Edited by KTG119

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Would you say the conference that a wrestler is in will make a difference in dominance potential?

fair point, and also of note, in Tshirts' favor if you will....yeah tons of close matches at NCAAs, but 4 of his 5 opponents ended up on the podium.

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not Dake... a simple formula from a previous post that i made a few weeks back... 

 

Dake at weight 'X' won at weight 'X', and most likely could have defeated those in the weight classes immediately surrounding him, including super Studs Taylor and Howe.  

 

Tsirtsis has 1 title, albeit, as a freshman... and could he beat Logie-bear... not a chance... Dylan Ness?  Nopers... In addition, he reminds me too much of D. Schlatter... 

 

Is the kid talented?  you betcha... it's just WAY too early to crown him the next Dake... 

 

That'll be Spencer Lee or Mark Hall, depending if they even go to college... :-P

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I think there are definite similarities. In both cases we have a wrestler with immense physical gifts and wrestling ability who, for some reason, often chooses to not use them except to do the bare minimum required to win.

 

Lets see... Kyle Dake, 137-4 career record, 83 bonus wins (more than half) 44 falls (almost 1/3).  Yep.  He was dogging it.

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Dake had 2 close matches in 4 years at the NCAAs: Reece Humphrey 2010 and David Taylor 2013- one match that went OT in 4 years.    Freshman Year went 4-1, Fall, 11-0, 3-2 TB and 7-3 in the finals.   Sophomore year combined score: 32-1.   Jr Year 3 Falls.   Sr Year: 29-0 combined score before meeting David Taylor.

Dake was completely dominant wrestler that almost never had a close mat in the tournament basically the complete opposite of Tsiris.

If Tsiris doesnt open up his offense- maybe one more title but he has no chance of coming close to matching Dake's record with his current style.

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