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One more thing...folks don't seem to realize that there is now a 5 second count when the top man drops below the buttocks onto either one leg or both legs when in the offensive position. It doesn't matter how he ended up there or what he's doing with it - even if they're in a scramble situation - the 5 second count will begin and continue until the offensive man moves up above the buttocks with at least one hand. If he does not, then a stalling penalty will be assessed. 

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