TBar1977 3,757 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 People on other boards are calling Gilman a punk. What did he do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 304 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 Ran into the Gopher huddle when Lizak was standing in the middle of mat waiting to shake his hand. Gilman did the same thing last year to Brancale and paid the price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,166 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 Strange behavior. I'd like to be a fly on the wall at the Gilman Christmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serial_Thriller 77 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 Gilman ran over to their huddle and said "Hey guys, I just wanted to apologize for my actions last year. They were unprofessional and in no way should reflect what the Iowa wrestling program is about. I hope we can put this incident behind us and someday become good friends. Good day and God bless" 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,166 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 He's competitive, but also sensitive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toss4Five 6 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 Maybe it had something to do with this as well..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,957 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Gilman is not good enough to be pulling this stuff. Especially right before he is gonna wrestle someone he can essentially bully on physical strength alone. Edited January 31, 2015 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommygun 52 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 Gillman is a first class piece of garbage. It's a shame because he is so good at wrestling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 He does play the heel well. I am surprised there is not a thread about when the Iowa film girl distracted the refs only to have Terry Brands hit Storley with a chair right before overtime. 1 Jaroslav Hasek reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powershouse 82 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 You saw that too? Who was the other kid who kicked his water bottle into the stands then swatted at a fan with his headgear as he entered the tunnel? Fan snagged the headgear and they had a tug of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,957 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 Gillman is a first class piece of garbage. It's a shame because he is so good at wrestling. I really doubt he is that bad a guy, he's just stupid in a very specific way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurshy92 27 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 I think its very possible for him to be a bad person. Too often do people get painted as "hes such a good kid, just a bad action." There are plenty of people in this world who are bad people but have a good skill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 They could and should put n end to this type of behavior by dinging the team a point...better yet make it punishable by forfeit! That be the last time you see arrogent disrespect of that type! Next thing you could see is a mele that can be seen when teams cross the line in college football games (and I do not mean off sides!). 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 Better yet, they should make the offending individual inelligable for the next scheduled event and if it is the BIGs or NCAAs the individual has not one to blame but himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 Pretty sure I saw him shiv Brancale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 Those who are backing Gillman's actions need only listen to him proclaiming he and Clark are better than McDounough and Ramos. Just full of himself! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 those comments are the most overblown controversy in history? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironmonkey 137 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 Look how far MMA will go to create "bad guys" to sell an event, or how many buys Mayweather gets per pay per view in boxing. Sportsmanship aside, people are interested in these types of characters and actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 901 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 Didn't see it, so trusting you guys that this actually happened... At the end of the day, I DO wish and hope that our 'leaders' of the sport take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves this question: Why? The reason that I say this is simply to look at the Russians, Iranians, European nations, and Asian nations. They treat wrestling and the concept of wrestling for what it is: A Martial Art. I highly doubt Gatsalov, Saitiev, etc. etc. etc. ever needed the 'Ramos Staredown' to intimidate their opponent. This mind-game, tough-guy act is simply an act, and a stupid/self-gratifying one at that. If WE as USA Wrestling EVER want to seriously compete consistently, we need to teach our younger wrestlers about the discipline of the sport, the values of the sport, and the graciousness and fortunate opportunity awarded to each of these young guys with their physical gifts. These actions are 'trashy', and there's no wonder the rest of the world laughs when someone like a Gilman, Ramos, etc. take the mat and get their butts handed to them on the World Stage. Burroughs? He's classy, and via his own interview commentary, considers the sport to be something greater than himself. The world 'adores' him, relative to the rest of the 'super macho man' acts that are out there. Let's ask Ben Askren if his antics help him compete internationally... oh wait... yeah... that's rights... he got beat... bad... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling 1,123 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 What did Gilman do behind the Gophers' bench? I dunno, but the following unfortunate image crossed my mind... Could he possibly have left a little stinky for the Gophers? Naw!...hard to believe...yet... ...Tommy is always talking about Hawks "pooping their pants"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
provocateur 12 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 I'm willing to give Ramos a pass. Maybe the expression is ritual or something that he needs to pump himself up for before a match. These guys aren't carrying weapons on the mat. Who cares about his facial expression? I much prefer humility and sportsmanship and despise bush-league antics, but I don't think that most of our guys are any more guilty of this than others are internationally - probably less, in fact. Gilman's antics have no place in college sport. There should be penalty points for this kind of behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,957 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 I think its very possible for him to be a bad person. Too often do people get painted as "hes such a good kid, just a bad action." There are plenty of people in this world who are bad people but have a good skill. I agree with you, just clarifying, I didn't say he was good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker_Du 554 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 hey, old ladies. cheer up. the kid's just having fun. 2 ironmonkey and madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,957 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 yeah and hitler liked dogs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 yeah and hitler liked dogs. Clearly an appropriate comparison. I thought Gilman looks positively genocidal when he ran over there. 2 Husker_Du and LaxHawk174 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites