OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 125: Waters dec Gilman 3-0 Mizzu 133: Clark Mdec Synon 4-3 Iowa 141: Iowa dec Mayes 7-3 Iowa 149: Sorenson dec Houdashelt 10-3 Iowa 157: Kelly dec LaValle 13-3 Iowa 165: Moore dec England 16-3 Iowa 174: Evans dec Eblen 19-3 Iowa 184: Brooks dec Miklus 22-3 Iowa 197: Cox dec Burak 22-6 Iowa 285: Telford dec Mellon. 25-6 Iowa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,975 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 141: Iowa dec Mayes 7-3 Iowa And so it begins.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkeye73 3 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 Iowa could have Brody Grothos at 141 for national duals to see how he handles the cut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_MO_Godfather 52 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) 125: Waters dec Gilman 3-0 Mizzu 133: Clark Mdec Synon 4-3 Iowa 141: Iowa dec Mayes 7-3 Iowa 149: Sorenson dec Houdashelt 10-3 Iowa 157: Kelly dec LaValle 13-3 Iowa 165: Moore dec England 16-3 Iowa 174: Evans dec Eblen 19-3 Iowa 184: Brooks dec Miklus 22-3 Iowa 197: Cox dec Burak 22-6 Iowa 285: Telford dec Mellon. 25-6 Iowa You sure you want to even give Missouri those 2 matches? Gilman and Burak could make it a 10-0 sweep for Iowa..... Edited February 3, 2015 by The_MO_Godfather 1 tigerfan9311 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) You sure you want to even give Missouri those 2 matches? Gilman and Burak could make it a 10-0 sweep for Iowa..... Yeah, cause I am really reaching on the rest of them. I would say every MO posters prediction of a close win is just as slanted as this prediction. The only one I am actually picking the "underdog" is 184 and although I like Milkus a lot I think Brooks is one of the best guys at this weight. Sure I could see any one of MO's 141,157,149 or 184 winning on a given night, but when I look at each matchup I feel each of the Iowa guys is a little better. Edited February 3, 2015 by OtisCampbell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyclones 29 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 Yeah, cause I am really reaching on the rest of them. None of them on there own are reaches, but I would be fairly surprised if all Iowa wins that many of the tossups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 God Bless Brian Smith for putting Mizzou in this picture! No one has done more for a program! Koll has done more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gallison 80 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Brian Smith may not be the best coach in college wrestling. Koll and Sanderson are very good, and there are others. What Mizzou fans are acknowleding is that Brian Smith is light years better than anyone Mizzou has had in the past and we're damn thankful to have him! He's done a great job and continues to improve the program every year. Not too long ago, Mizzou was consistently at the bottom of the BIG 12. This year we're highly ranked and competitive with any program in the nation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 i love him too, someone threw out "no one has done more" and i reacted impulsively, as is only fair in reference to extreme statements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
concerned_texas_coach 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 I am amazed how many say or agree with this: 149: Houdashelt dec. Sorenson 9-4 Mizzou. Sorenson is on a tear, but I don't think he can handle the chain wrestling of Houdashelt. What we do know is that Houdashelt got beat by Kindig and Sorenson beat Kindig handily. Sorenson also beat the defending National champion. At worst, this is a toss up. I think Sorenson wins it and should be favored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Wrong. Edited February 4, 2015 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 texas, that's a fair assessment of the results - but did you actually watch the houdashelt kindig match? Kindig was literally handed the win with two highly suspect calls and ducked houdashelt next chance he got. that may have been one of the worst examples of officiating this season (and the reffing in general this season is down imo). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,975 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Sorenson has shown he belongs in this conversation. I'm just picking Houdashelt. if you want to pick Sorenson, I don't think you're wrong. No getting around beating Josh Kindig and Jason Tsirtsis. Both guys have one loss on the season....to Sorenson. Edited February 4, 2015 by VakAttack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerfan9311 223 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 I am amazed how many say or agree with this: 149: Houdashelt dec. Sorenson 9-4 Mizzou. Sorenson is on a tear, but I don't think he can handle the chain wrestling of Houdashelt. What we do know is that Houdashelt got beat by Kindig and Sorenson beat Kindig handily. Sorenson also beat the defending National champion. At worst, this is a toss up. I think Sorenson wins it and should be favored. It took Kindig 4 matches to beat Wowdashelt, and even that was controversial. Sorenson has yet to experience Drake, which is not something anyone in the last 2 1/2 years has had much success with. Sorenson may well win, though. Of course it is a toss-up, but apparently many believe Drake's a tough out the first time. You're certainly entitled to your opinion as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Concerned Texas Toast must be very frustrated right now that we insist on thinking before we pick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerfan9311 223 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Just bought my National Duals tickets for Iowa City. Sat AND Sun. Presumptuous? Perhaps. Go Tigers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
concerned_texas_coach 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Concerned Texas Toast must be very frustrated right now that we insist on thinking before we pick. Yeah, that's it. I just have one problem - it doesn't make sense that you used a personal plural pronoun. Oh well, we all make mistakes. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,975 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Hammerlock is actually royalty... 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,996 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) What makes Sorenson hard to pick against is how he keeps getting better. Of all the guys at 149, he is on the steepest part of the learning curve when the other top guys look to have hit their ceilings. A guy like that who doesn't tire is really hard to pick against after he beats the returning national champ. Sorenson reminds me of some of the Hawks of old who would get disproportionately better than their competition within the span of one season. When he beat Hunter S, I was confident Hunter would get him later in the season when he went from 50% to say 75% with a little more gas in spite of his elbow. Now, I'm not sure I'd pick him at 100%. Houdashelt may well prove to be a tough matchup for Sorenson but I am picking Sorenson here purely based on his upward trend. Edited February 4, 2015 by wrestlingnerd 1 wrestlingnerd reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Yeah, that's it. I just have one problem - it doesn't make sense that you used a personal plural pronoun. Oh well, we all make mistakes. :) am i the only houdashelt picker? Edited February 4, 2015 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 I am amazed how many say or agree with this: 149: Houdashelt dec. Sorenson 9-4 Mizzou. Sorenson is on a tear, but I don't think he can handle the chain wrestling of Houdashelt. What we do know is that Houdashelt got beat by Kindig and Sorenson beat Kindig handily. Sorenson also beat the defending National champion. At worst, this is a toss up. I think Sorenson wins it and should be favored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
concerned_texas_coach 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 am i the only houdashelt picker? This is what you stated - "Concerned Texas Toast must be very frustrated right now that we insist on thinking before we pick." Obviously, I put much more thought into the pick than you. I provided results to back my pick. You provided what I would call "a woman's intuition". As a result, the "we" pronoun would indicate that you too put thought into your pick. You did not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
preceptor 19 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Waters mdec Gillman. Waters frustrates and breaks him. 4-0 Clarck dec Synon. Clark eeks out a close one. 4-3 Mayes dec Jeva. Mayes is too explosive for Jeva. 7-3 Houdashelt wbf Sorenson. The freshman gets a rude awakening. 13-3 Lavallee dec Kelly. Lavallee is from Nevada, enough said. 16-3 England dec Moore. Moore does not want to wrestle. 19-3 Eblen mdec Evans. Evans likes to go to his back. JEblen will help him there. 23-3 Miklus dec Brooks. I like Brooks (wrestles like Iowa used to) but he wrestles there now so he loses. 26-3 Cox wbf Burak. Cox convinces Burak to go down so the freshman wont be the only one. 32-3 Mellon dec Telford. Telford shoots in OT and Mellon outscrambles him. 35-3 Iowa wrestles well but just does not have the horses to compete with Mizzou. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Texas, as I stated earlier Kindig won that match thanks to terrible officiating (and Kindig is now 1-3 career against Houdashelt?) and immediately decided not to wrestle Houdashelt in the rematch. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Sorenson won the match, but I don't think at this time that he does. The fact that there are so many match ups like this being discussed makes me really want to see this dual happen. It would be great for the fans to see this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
concerned_texas_coach 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Texas, as I stated earlier Kindig won that match thanks to terrible officiating (and Kindig is now 1-3 career against Houdashelt?) and immediately decided not to wrestle Houdashelt in the rematch. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Sorenson won the match, but I don't think at this time that he does. The fact that there are so many match ups like this being discussed makes me really want to see this dual happen. It would be great for the fans to see this. I commented on it as a toss up or slightly favoring Sorenso. He3 did beat Tsirsis and Kindig 6 - 1. It will be close with NO clear favorite. My comment was only for those that seem to think Sorenson doesn't have a chance on this one or that H is just way too much for him. All that is nonsense. It is tight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
