tigerfan9311 223 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Assuming these two are seeded 2 and 3 at National Duals, any thoughts on this match-up?125 - Waters TF Lizak. Waters teched Boyle, and I don't think Lizak's better than Boyle. Mizzou 5-0133 - Dardanes mdec Synon. Synon's really lanky, which might allow him to really frustrate Dardanes, but eventually the points will pile up. Mizzou 5-4141 - Mayes dec. Dardanes. Toss-up, obviously, but I think this will be Mayes statement win. Gonna be a great match! Mizzou 8-4149 - Houdashelt mdec Short. I'd say tech, but Short seems really good at stalling, so we'll stick with major. Mizzou 12-4157 - Ness dec. Lavallee. Of course a pin is always possible, but Lavallee is very tough to score on, losing by 1 three times to Ian Miller. Mizzou 12-7165 - England dec Kingsley/Wanzek. Toss-up, England has struggled at 165 so far, so he's due. Mizzou 15-7174 - Storley dec Eblen. I don't like this match-up style-wise. I think Eblen has a better shot at Evans. Toss-up, but I'm giving it to Minny. Mizzou 15-10184 - Miklus dec Pfarr. Miklus is just better. Not that impressed with Pfarr. Mizzou 18-10197 - Cox dec Schiller. Schiller is in trouble. Cox isn't gonna gas and he'll finish at least two of those takedowns. I'll say 5-2. Mizzou 21-10Hwt - Kroells dec Mellon. With nothing to wrestle for, Mellon will be uninspired. If the dual is on the line, this could change. Mizzou 21-13If Ness pins and Dardanes wins, that would be 19-18 Minny. But Mellon might win if that's the case. Lots of great matches, this will be an awesome dual, win or lose for both. 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,116 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 141- N. Dardanes is one of the nations most underrated. 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stl 47 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 125 - Waters TF Lizak 5-0 Mizzou (Waters methodically racks up near-fall on top) 133 - Dardanes mdec. Synon 5-4 Mizzou (Dardanes just outmuscles Synon and plays the TD and cut game to get bonus) 141 - Dardanes dec. Mayes 7-5 Minnesota (Dardanes hand fights well and doesn't let Mayes get space) 149 - Houdashelt mdec. Short 9-7 Mizzou (Houdashelt gets a couple takedowns plus some near-fall to get bonus) 157 - Ness mdec. Lavallee 11-9 Minnesota (Same as Houdashelt) 165 - Kingsley/Wanzek dec. England 14-9 Minnesota (Doesn't matter who Minny throws out, England hasn't improved since dropping to 165) 174 - Storley dec. Eblen 17-9 Minnesota (Storley is too athletic for Eblen. Eblen will get good offensive chances but won't be able to capitalize) 184 - Miklus dec. Pfarr 17-12 Minnesota (Miklus has been wrestling well lately so he gets the nod, but will be a close match) 197 - Cox dec. Schiller 17-15 Minnesota (Cox gets it done this time with better conditioning and a gameplan) Hwt - Kroells dec. Mellon 20-15 Minnesota (Toss up. Not expecting much from either guy) I'm most excited for 141, 174, 184, and 197. - 141 will be a battle of styles. Dardanes kind of flies under the radar because 141 is so top heavy, but winning this match soundly could show just how good he really is. On the other hand, Mayes could show that he can compete with the top guys with a win here. - 174 will be fun to watch because I think Eblen will get in on multiple good scoring opportunities and we'll see Storley counter wrestle and funk his way out of them, probably scoring on a couple. - 184 has two competitive guys that will go at it. Personally I think Miklus is significantly better than Pfarr, but I feel like he oftentimes doesn't wrestle to his potential, which will keep this match close. - 197 is a matchup we'd all love to see again. Cox will be back with a vengeance and is just looking dominant lately. Despite the All-Star match I think Cox wins this one by a close score with Cox clearly having the upper hand most of the match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andegre 179 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Here's the dual comparison. Missouri is looking tough, but I don't believe they have the horses top-to-bottom... http://www.wrestlestats.com/Team/DualComparison/42/minnesota/43/missouri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fudge_tunnel 107 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) but I don't believe they have the horses I keep reading that - "they don't have the horses". On here, on the Hawkeye Report, on the Guillotine. Interesting... Edited February 4, 2015 by fudge_tunnel 1 KTG119 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teach 159 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Mizz is not a big 10 team so they naturally do not have the horses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fudge_tunnel 107 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Mizz is not a big 10 team so they naturally do not have the horses. Well, of course... 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,092 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Here's the dual comparison. Missouri is looking tough, but I don't believe they have the horses top-to-bottom... http://www.wrestlestats.com/Team/DualComparison/42/minnesota/43/missouri ahh ... it'd be tigers versus gophers, why would Mizoo need any horses? Now if the gophers are riding down to the dual on their horses they're gonna be worn out and a tiger can take a gopher on a horse any day, well I'd say at least any day in 2015. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
preceptor 19 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Waters TF Lizak... waters too good on top 5-0 Dardennes dec Synon...Synon ride the storm and stall and dardennes has trouble scoring. 5-3 Mayes dec Dardennes..Mayes too athletic for Dardennes. 8-3 Houdashelt mdec short...Houdashelt eats the freshman up. 12-3 lavallee dec Ness..Ness gives up some dumb points early and runs out of time. Lavallee tough to score on. 15-3 England dec Wanzek. Weird last name so I give it to England 18-3 Eblen dec Storley... Story of the dual is JEblen downing Storley. Storley overrated. 21-3 Miklus mdec Pfarr...Miklus makes a statement and punishes the gopher. 25-3 Cox mdec Schiller..Cox is still angry about the all star. 29-3 Mellon dec Kroells..Mellon hits the old Mellon crusher to end the dual. 32-3 That would be a decent performance for the Tigers. Edited February 4, 2015 by preceptor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaBearSLIM 48 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Waters TF Lizak... waters too good on top 5-0 Dardennes dec Synon...Synon ride the storm and stall and dardennes has trouble scoring. 5-3 Mayes dec Dardennes..Mayes too athletic for Dardennes. 8-3 Houdashelt mdec short...Houdashelt eats the freshman up. 12-3 lavallee dec Ness..Ness gives up some dumb points early and runs out of time. Lavallee tough to score on. 15-3 England dec Wanzek. Weird last name so I give it to England 18-3 Eblen dec Storley... Story of the dual is JEblen downing Storley. Storley overrated. 21-3 Miklus mdec Pfarr...Miklus makes a statement and punishes the gopher. 25-3 Cox mdec Schiller..Cox is still angry about the all star. 29-3 Mellon dec Kroells..Mellon hits the old Mellon crusher to end the dual. 32-3 That would be a decent performance for the Tigers. Synon did beat Garrett which is a better win than CD has had this year. So make it 35-0 Mizzou Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
preceptor 19 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 Synon did beat Garrett which is a better win than CD has had this year. So make it 35-0 Mizzou I thought about that but did not want to be called a homer. 1 PapaBearSLIM reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,164 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 125: Waters Mdec Lizak 4-0 Mizzou 133: Dardanes dec. Synon 4-3 Mizzou 141: Dardanes dec. Mayes 6-4 Minny 149: Houdashelt dec. Short 7-6 Mizzou 157: Ness dec. LaValle 9-7 Minny 165: Wanzek dec. England 12-7 Minny 174: Storley dec. Eblen 15-7 Minny 184: Miklus dec. Pfarr 15-10 Minny 197: Cox dec. Schiller 15-13 Minny 285: Kroells dec. Mellon 18-13 Minny I think the entire dual comes down to England being able to beat Wanzek. I feel confident in the other picks and predict a lack of bonus scored in this match up. If England can come out on top at 165 I think the Tigers will win it on criteria with a 16-16 team score. I think Minnesota matches up better against Mizzou than Iowa does. 1 tigerstyle4life reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stl 47 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 125: Waters Mdec Lizak 4-0 Mizzou 133: Dardanes dec. Synon 4-3 Mizzou 141: Dardanes dec. Mayes 6-4 Minny 149: Houdashelt dec. Short 7-6 Mizzou 157: Ness dec. LaValle 9-7 Minny 165: Wanzek dec. England 12-7 Minny 174: Storley dec. Eblen 15-7 Minny 184: Miklus dec. Pfarr 15-10 Minny 197: Cox dec. Schiller 15-13 Minny 285: Kroells dec. Mellon 18-13 Minny I think the entire dual comes down to England being able to beat Wanzek. I feel confident in the other picks and predict a lack of bonus scored in this match up. If England can come out on top at 165 I think the Tigers will win it on criteria with a 16-16 team score. I think Minnesota matches up better against Mizzou than Iowa does. Wouldn't a win by England make the score 16-15 Mizzou and they'd win outright? Regardless, even though I didn't put it in my predictions, I think we're gonna see a pin somewhere in this dual. I just have a gut feeling that in a matchup like this, something random is bound to happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerstyle4life 6 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 125: Waters Mdec Lizak 4-0 Mizzou 133: Dardanes dec. Synon 4-3 Mizzou 141: Dardanes dec. Mayes 6-4 Minny 149: Houdashelt dec. Short 7-6 Mizzou 157: Ness dec. LaValle 9-7 Minny 165: Wanzek dec. England 12-7 Minny 174: Storley dec. Eblen 15-7 Minny 184: Miklus dec. Pfarr 15-10 Minny 197: Cox dec. Schiller 15-13 Minny 285: Kroells dec. Mellon 18-13 Minny I think the entire dual comes down to England being able to beat Wanzek. I feel confident in the other picks and predict a lack of bonus scored in this match up. If England can come out on top at 165 I think the Tigers will win it on criteria with a 16-16 team score. I think Minnesota matches up better against Mizzou than Iowa does. Agree with this besides the Ness/Lavallee match..I'd predict a pin by Ness and I think Mellon wins the match against Kroells..both have similar wins/losses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
