Plasmodium 2,218 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Lots of stats freaks around here. Has there ever been a shutout in a dual involving two top five teams? Has a defending national champion ever been shutout? Has Carl ever been on the wrong end of a shutout? Edited February 5, 2015 by Plasmodium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Iowa will not shut out this dual for the same reason they are gonna be a shaky #1 headed into nationals (if they are). They have ? at 141, 157, 165. Sorry plas i don't have a meaningful historical perspective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Iowa will not shut out this dual for the same reason they are gonna be a shaky #1 headed into nationals (if they are). They have ? at 141, 157, 165. Sorry plas i don't have a meaningful historical perspective. I don't think Iowa is going to shut PSU out but saying Iowa is going to be a shaky #1 because they have ? at 141,157 and 165 is kinda silly. If Iowa's 141,157 and 165 are ?s Minn has ?s at 125,149,165,184,HWT tOSU has ?s at 133,149,157,174,184,HWT PSU has ?s at 125,133,141,149,157,165,184,HWT Mizzu has ?s at 133,141,157,165,174,184,HWT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SetonHallPirate 988 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, Iowa has question marks ranked 8th, 8th, and 9th in the country (per the Dual Impact Index presented by the National Collegiate Open). Hammerlockthree, your argument is utterly preposterous. Although my computer projects it, I would be a fair bit surprised if the Hawks win by shutout. But it's not very likely to be those three weights that break the shutout, unless Dylan Alton goes, in which case 157 is a tossup, IMO. That may be the worst argument I've heard for anything since wrestling was dropped at one institution because "wrestlers are bad people". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) SHP, I realize you may of spent a lot of time putting it together but your computer program is wrong on a regular basis so why do you continue to site it as some sort of authority on college wrestling? It's all a bunch of hokum to me and probably many others. Edited February 5, 2015 by Flying-Tiger 1 IronChef reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,978 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 I will say that many of SHP's more recent posts have a similar feel to Chertow's. Almost feels like they are selling something............;) I wonder if they make a living directly involved with wrestling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,824 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 I am reasonably certain he is in fact, dating his computer. 2 BobDole and GranbyTroll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,047 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 SHP, you ever give your abacus the Pepsi Challenge and compare the computer to the last pre NCAA rankings, and see who predicts the final stands most accurately? without checking anything i'd bet it stacks up favorably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 434 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 You all need to get up out SHP's face right about now. The index is legit. 1 madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skikayaker 93 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Should be a fun dual. I'll admit, I will be watching with my hands covering my face as if head lights from a Mack truck were coming right at me. I'll also admit that if PSU were to pull off the biggest upset since the 1980 Olympic Hockey win over the Russians I will be on here gloa"T"ing with a capital "T" that rhymes with "P" that stands for "Pool"! 1 redblades reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 1,192 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 If you look at Bob Dole's index brought to you by Viagra you will see that Iowa will beat Penn State 3 carp, GranbyTroll and HurricaneWrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, Iowa has question marks ranked 8th, 8th, and 9th in the country (per the Dual Impact Index presented by the National Collegiate Open). Hammerlockthree, your argument is utterly preposterous. Although my computer projects it, I would be a fair bit surprised if the Hawks win by shutout. But it's not very likely to be those three weights that break the shutout, unless Dylan Alton goes, in which case 157 is a tossup, IMO. That may be the worst argument I've heard for anything since wrestling was dropped at one institution because "wrestlers are bad people". They're just not definite point scorers at nationals. Everyone is so sensitive on here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,966 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 They're just not definite point scorers at nationals. Everyone is so sensitive on here. I think the point here is that all teams have those ?s this year and Iowa has thusfar stood above, and they haven't been particularly challenged. They could still lose, but I think they're a solid favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) I didn't even say iowa wasn't the best! I just pointed out the places Iowa is little nervous! And everyone who currently nestled up my butt seems to agree with me because all they have to say is that other teams have more question marks. You'd think I called them holes or something. The real story here is how paranoid and insecure this success and #1 ranking has made some of the Iowa faithful. Edited February 5, 2015 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,047 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 with the line up set and everyone healthy (as far as i know) i count fewer and less concerning question marks at Iowa than any other contender. but whatever, semantics aside might be time to start armchair handicapping for fun. 40% Iowa 20% Minn 20% tOSU 10% Mizz 10% Field 35% Iowa 20% Minn 20% tOSU 10% Mizz 5% PSU 5% Corn 5% field field might be actually be 1% after the contenders. thots? what did i miss? i am a rank amateur when it comes to odds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redblades 322 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Skikayaker - now that sounds like trouble, right here in River City! 1 skikayaker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 If you look at Bob Dole's index brought to you by Viagra you will see that Iowa will beat Penn State Fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paboom 204 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 After hearing for over 2 years that this is Ohio State's year with all of their #This and #That out there, Iowa has quietly become the frontrunner and the team to beat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GranbyTroll 452 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 TOSU will win the NCAA tournament regardless of any "point totals" stating the contrary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 336 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 The Pirate's early training: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ewtdg_wow-mastermind-of-abacus_school Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,047 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 no one wants to take a stab a predicting the national championship odds? just me and SHP's computer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossel3 77 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 SHP, I realize you may of spent a lot of time putting it together but your computer program is wrong on a regular basis so why do you continue to site it as some sort of authority on college wrestling? It's all a bunch of hokum to me and probably many others.----- this one gave me a chuckle.... so SHP's computer projections are hokum, but your posts are enlightened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,824 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 no one wants to take a stab a predicting the national championship odds? just me and SHP's computer? I read this as his computer is cheating on shp, with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denny 216 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 I have been paying attention to the Hawkeyes, with special focus on that Iowa/Minny dual. I for one, am convinced that this Iowa team is (currently) the team at the top of the heap. Duals, tourneys, no matter……looks like they could literally 'run the table' through the month of March. That said, I have been a 'professor' fan/follower since the guy was in HS over there in Utah. He gave our sport a big shot in the arm when it was needed. I think that he continues to do so. This Sun, February 8, will be lots of fun for this ole wrestler/fan(atic). Let's hope for a real barn burner of a wrestling dual meet. I'm there, just………. Imagine. Apologies to John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) I think PSU benefits from having Friday off. Gulibon is especially terrible at making the Friday-Sunday turnaround. I think he still loses though. Overall, I would guess PSU wins 174 and 197 only, but wrestles tough. Edited February 5, 2015 by LemonPie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites