cangemi 228 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) I been a fan of both brothers but also PSU Fan Not sure what happen again Dylan Alton, but as a psu fan does not look good. Hurt, tired, enough, to close end year put someone else in 157 and represent better! Dont even think of changing Beitz either , people better start realizing hes no fluke! Kid is solid he is no "back up" performs at the big events! Frank C Edited February 15, 2015 by cangemi 1 wrestlingphish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tightwaist 390 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 If someone would have asked me to wager that the Alton Brothers would have been All Americans only 1x between the two of the them, I would have lost a lot of money. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Marine_Wrestler 245 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 That was a painful match to watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwosackJon 1 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 I hate seeing them catch so much flack. Being hurt jut ruins you, no matter how talented. Look at what happened to McDonough his senior year. If healthy he would have been a 3 timer with a runner up to go with it. Look at Burroughs losing to Tsargush .... we can go on and on. Maybe Andrew and Dylan come back as international studs .... who knows? I wish the best for them. 1 JohnnyThompsonnum1 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 thats a bummer. couldnt imagine putting in 5 years in college to a sport like wrestling and have it derailed by injuries that way. nothing but respect for his efforts. 1 BigRedMachine reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedMachine 210 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) ^Agreed. Who else does PSU have that they can insert at 157? If there's no one who would be a point significant point scorer at NCAA's then I'd be in favor of allowing the senior to finish out his career as the starter. He's sacrificed his time, effort, and health for this team for 5 years, I think he deserves this one favor. This is of course assuming that continuing to let him wrestle isn't risking permanent damage to his health. Edited February 15, 2015 by BigRedMachine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 I'm crying here, so very sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Both Altons would have received a lot more empathy from that fans if Cael was more forthcoming about their injuries, etc..But that is the Cael way. Treats wrestling information like its a Homeland Secruity issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffr_ideal 216 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 I hate seeing them catch so much flack. Being hurt jut ruins you, no matter how talented. Look at what happened to McDonough his senior year. If healthy he would have been a 3 timer with a runner up to go with it. Look at Burroughs losing to Tsargush .... we can go on and on. Maybe Andrew and Dylan come back as international studs .... who knows? I wish the best for them. Or Dustin Schlatter, Mike Pucillo, Troy Nickerson, and so on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cangemi 228 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 I like the kids Painful to watch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlw028 106 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Both Altons would have received a lot more empathy from that fans if Cael was more forthcoming about their injuries, etc..But that is the Cael way. Treats wrestling information like its a Homeland Secruity issue. Agreed that it's bothersome that Cael is so secretive, but on the same note, what does it benefit his team/athletes to be forthcoming with information like this? It doesn't, and despite what anyone thinks, Cael's #1 priority is and should be to give his guys the best chance to win. My .02. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Agreed that it's bothersome that Cael is so secretive, but on the same note, what does it benefit his team/athletes to be forthcoming with information like this? It doesn't, and despite what anyone thinks, Cael's #1 priority is and should be to give his guys the best chance to win. My .02. It affects donations to the NLWC. I assure you of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 I'm crying here, so very sad. i'd be annoyed by this comment but your such a perfect a-hole i couldn't help but LOL. 1 buck reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 You're. 2 stp and gutfirst reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 You're. haha, got me! 1 buck reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Was he favoring a limb this time? I've never seen them behave as if injured before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 920 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Agreed that it's bothersome that Cael is so secretive, but on the same note, what does it benefit his team/athletes to be forthcoming with information like this? It doesn't, and despite what anyone thinks, Cael's #1 priority is and should be to give his guys the best chance to win. My .02. How was Cael secretive? It was common knowledge coming into the season that they both had shoulder surgeries on the opposite shoulder that they had the previous year. It was also common knowledge that Andrew sustained a likely collegiate career-ending knee injury in the August-September time frame. It was also obvious that Dylan reinjured his shoulder in a dual in January. It was known that English dealt with injuries his entire career, as is currently the case with Frey. I don't see many secrets there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dutchcountry7 26 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Shame. Wrestling is tough on the body. This is why the walk-on talent is so important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,607 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Megalutis has the 125 shoulder curse hanging over his head too. Wrestle him while Delgado and Garrett might be struggling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) If someone would have asked me to wager that the Alton Brothers would have been All Americans only 1x between the two of the them, I would have lost a lot of money. Add Peppelman to that list and I may have lost every dollar I had. Pretty hard to believe considering how much they all dominated in high school. Heck, you can add Shober, Cowburn, Sherlock, Kindig and Dziewa and only come up with one more AA. I considered the 2010 class possibly the best ever in PA back then, wow how things have changed. Edited February 16, 2015 by Flying-Tiger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,838 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Well, you guys tend to hype of Pennsylvania scholastic wrestling so much, it's not a total coincidence when kids don't deliver. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 For those criticizing Cael's handling of injuries .......when did we learn of McDonough's injury??? I think it is pretty common not to broadcast injury info to allow opponents the opportunity to exploit it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pennsyrules 222 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 F/T, I agree with you and you could throw Eric Hess into the group. But for all their lack of production, let's be fair and remember that Mitchell Port, Spencer Meyers, Tyler Wilps, and Mike Evans were also in that class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redblades 322 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 Megalutis has the 125 shoulder curse hanging over his head too. Wrestle him while Delgado and Garrett might be struggling. I'm not so sure I would put Garrett in the same boat as Delgado right now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted February 16, 2015 So a wrestler is known to have a bad left knee, it's then your assertion that an opponent armed with this information will go after his knee? Or bad ribs, or a bad elbow, then those body parts would be attacked? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
