hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Normally he has a lot of attitude and pushes everyone around. Must have the flu.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wreferee 8 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Or mebbe he saw a bit of himself in their mustachioed 125 lber and decided certain behaviors are unacceptable, unmanly, unattractive and downright stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 It appears he is going to wrap up his career with no B1G and no NCAA individual titles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedMachine 210 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 ^so? The same could be said of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,824 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 I can make brag, the same claim. 2 xander and madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 464 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Surprising considering his pedigree coming out of Blair. That's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Surprising considering his pedigree coming out of Blair. That's all. That is a silly statement. Kinda like him having more All American finishes already, than the Alton brothers is surprising. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,490 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Iowa wrestled 5 seniors this year, and not one of them has ever won a Big10 title. Not even 1 among the entire lot of them. That's pretty interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Iowa wrestled 5 seniors this year, and not one of them has ever won a Big10 title. Not even 1 among the entire lot of them. That's pretty interesting. Super interesting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Surprising considering his pedigree coming out of Blair. That's all. Fair point, I hadn't considered. When he was at Blair, he took down Camp., the man child from New Jersey and just dominated him. He had 2 time champ written all over him, but then he chose Iowa. Then when he made the huge weight cut, it seemed unreal that he would be able to be competitive, being so drained out and likely miserable, but he's managed to hold the weight and although ornery as a skunk during a prolonged heat, he doesn't appear to be negatively impacted (from a physical stand point). But he also doesn't appear to be improving much. He hasn't been able to separate himself from the other top guys in the weight class and you just sort of expect this year to finally be his year (year after year) and yet the individual accolades just have not been there. He's more known for his outburst and negative attitude than anything else. Perhaps Iowa just wasn't the right place for him to maximize his potential? Tough to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Perhaps he made great decisions (which he did), but he is the problem and doesn't deserve to be the national champ. Being great a great bully isn't the same being a great wrester. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I don't now that anyone's accusing him of being great. I think some of us are just surprised he's seemingly regressed as time has gone on. I mean if I'm not mistaken, he didn't score a take down in 4 matches at Big 10s this weekend and he averaged 1.25 points per match. That tends to border on mediocre and I for one would have expected a bit better for a guy with his pedigree. Yes I get it Iowa tends to bog the offense down with the push/pull tactic then hope for a stall call but even factoring that in, Evens has largely been a disappointment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 His regression is on him. All this talk about Iowa and Blair, as if Tom Brands and Jeff Buxton hurt his wrestling, is ridiculous. 1 LordNelson reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greco_gilligan 62 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Iowa wrestled 5 seniors this year, and not one of them has ever won a Big10 title. Not even 1 among the entire lot of them. That's pretty interesting. It has to be a great recruiting tool with such an accomplished class. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I think the the talk about Blair is because they improved his wrestling over there. If you saw him prior to Blair and then the development he had at Blair, you'd have to give Buxton credit for the difference and development. I'm not in the Iowa room so I can't speculate who it's on, I just see a regression from a kid who appeared poised to make a huge impact and quite frankly hasn't. Admittedly, I know little about what goes on at Iowa practices or their training culture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I'll give another perspective which is opposite and more valid than my first. He's ranked third. the kid is awesome, not everyone gets to be #1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I'll give another perspective which is opposite and more valid than my first. He's ranked third. the kid is awesome, not everyone gets to be #1. Fair assessment. Now imagine if he was improving. That elusive #1 spot might have already been his. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 i still think you are asking the wrong questions. The kid he beat in his last match had one (rather bizarre) high school loss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 86 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Well,considering how crappy Camp has been using him to gage how good Mike Evans was does not hold much water. 1 BigRedMachine reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedMachine 210 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Surprising considering his pedigree coming out of Blair. That's all. The guy he just beat for third had a better pedigree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,069 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I am not an Evans fan either, but it's hard to call him an underachiever. Here are the top 10 recruits from his class: 1. L. Stieber 2. A. Alton 3. C. Villalonga 4. M. Evans 5. M. Peppelman 6. L. Munster 7. J. Morse 8. D. Alton 9. ? 10. J. Kindig Stieber is obviously in class by himself. Evans has outperformed all but possibly Kindig. The other six have been much bigger disappointments. 2 BigRedMachine and ironmonkey reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 220 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 "When he was at Blair, he took down Camp., the man child from New Jersey and just dominated him." CT, I like andrew, but that win doesn't seem so impressive now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,472 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I am not an Evans fan either, but it's hard to call him an underachiever. Here are the top 10 recruits from his class: 1. L. Stieber 2. A. Alton 3. C. Villalonga 4. M. Evans 5. M. Peppelman 6. L. Munster 7. J. Morse 8. D. Alton 9. ? 10. J. Kindig Stieber is obviously in class by himself. Evans has outperformed all but possibly Kindig. The other six have been much bigger disappointments. How many years back do we need to go to find the recruiting rankings that have Brown? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildTurkey44 321 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 So Matt Browns only takedowns were against who? A kid from Indiana? Can't remember his name.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Matt brown had more offense in the finals than Evans had the whole tournament. Unforbately for him, kokesh came out on top eVery time. He really has distanced himself from the other three. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
